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 by max
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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This is the absolutely worse case scenario. Even if the Rams addressed the OL wisely, it wouldn’t have covered this magnitude of injury. So this year will be a struggle to make the playoffs. It’s football, luck is always a big part of winning.

Frankly, I don’t think Noteboom is good, so long term we may be better off with Jackson playing LT this year. Bruss could end up being a good OG long term. Havenstein is fine at RT. I’m not a big Allen fan, but he’s ok at OC. We have got to acquire a quality OG, either in trade or draft, at the very least. Possibly need a LT if Jackson doesn’t work out. Regardless, McSnead finally need to open their eyes and add some real talent to the OL and stop with the bargain basement approach.

 by JackPMiller
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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max wrote:This is the absolutely worse case scenario. Even if the Rams addressed the OL wisely, it wouldn’t have covered this magnitude of injury. So this year will be a struggle to make the playoffs. It’s football, luck is always a big part of winning.

Frankly, I don’t think Noteboom is good, so long term we may be better off with Jackson playing LT this year. Bruss could end up being a good OG long term. Havenstein is fine at RT. I’m not a big Allen fan, but he’s ok at OC. We have got to acquire a quality OG, either in trade or draft, at the very least. Possibly need a LT if Jackson doesn’t work out. Regardless, McSnead finally need to open their eyes and add some real talent to the OL and stop with the bargain basement approach.


Havenstein is in the last year of his deal. I would expect Jackson will be taking over the RT spot, next season. LT is the real concern, along with Center. One name I have been looking at, in next years draft, is Jaxson Kirkland. I predict he is a mid-late 2nd round guy, that we can groom for the LT spot. Find a cheap vet, to play LT, for a season or two, Kirkland & Jackson could be the future bookend Tackles.

 by max
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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JackPMiller wrote:Havenstein is in the last year of his deal. I would expect Jackson will be taking over the RT spot, next season. LT is the real concern, along with Center. One name I have been looking at, in next years draft, is Jaxson Kirkland. I predict he is a mid-late 2nd round guy, that we can groom for the LT spot. Find a cheap vet, to play LT, for a season or two, Kirkland & Jackson could be the future bookend Tackles.


That’s a terrific post Jack. Really good thoughts on addressing OL. I remember how you argued and reacted negatively to us not drafting Humphrey last year (right on point!).

Let’s hope the Rams brain trust gets it now.

 by AvengerRam
2 years 8 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
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JackPMiller wrote:Havenstein is in the last year of his deal. I would expect Jackson will be taking over the RT spot, next season. LT is the real concern, along with Center. One name I have been looking at, in next years draft, is Jaxson Kirkland. I predict he is a mid-late 2nd round guy, that we can groom for the LT spot. Find a cheap vet, to play LT, for a season or two, Kirkland & Jackson could be the future bookend Tackles.

Hav signed an extension this past offseason and is now locked up through 2025, so he's likely going to remain a fixture at RT.

 by Hacksaw
2 years 8 months ago
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Perhaps if we had better players along the line we wouldn't have gotten so injured. Wouldn’t have a lost season. And so early. That's got to be the elephant in the war room now.

My fingers are still crossed that the remaining bodies can hold up and we can adjust the offense to make this thing work.

 by PARAM
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JackPMiller wrote:Havenstein is in the last year of his deal. I would expect Jackson will be taking over the RT spot, next season.


Or.......AJ Jackson takes over the LT spot and Havenstein remains our RT with Arcuri being groomed to replace him. Bruss plays one of the guard spots, Anchrum the other and Allen (or Shelton) plays C. That's if Noteboom isn't one of the starters. Edwards and Evans will both be gone in 2023 and who knows if we're going to acquire another OL via trade this year.

It is somewhat fantasy that the Rams have "ignored" the OL. Under McVay/Snead they've drafted 8 OL in 6 years, 3 of them with their first or second selection. They traded for another (Corbett) and apparently obtained a good UDFA in Jackson. Picking an OL high doesn't guarantee anything (see G Rob and Jason Smith). But it makes for debate points when some believe they ignored the position.

How many teams have a collection of high draft picks on their OL? Examples would show how other teams don't ignore the OL like the Rams. And how many Superbowls have those teams won with that collection of high draft picks?

 by Hacksaw
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Good points PA. I never thought they ignored it but I thought they could have better prioritized it.
Still, 2 super bowls in 5 years. They must be doing something right.

 by 69RamFan
2 years 8 months ago
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JackPMiller wrote:Havenstein is in the last year of his deal. I would expect Jackson will be taking over the RT spot, next season. LT is the real concern, along with Center. One name I have been looking at, in next years draft, is Jaxson Kirkland. I predict he is a mid-late 2nd round guy, that we can groom for the LT spot. Find a cheap vet, to play LT, for a season or two, Kirkland & Jackson could be the future bookend Tackles.


Just to let you know,

RHav signed a new contract and free up some cap space this year.

He'll be staying at RT for the next three years.

 by Elvis
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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Hacksaw wrote:Perhaps if we had better players along the line we wouldn't have gotten so injured. Wouldn’t have a lost season. And so early. That's got to be the elephant in the war room now.

My fingers are still crossed that the remaining bodies can hold up and we can adjust the offense to make this thing work.


I don't see how that makes the slightest amount of sense. If Noteboom was better (not even sure what that means) his Achilles would still be in tact? Edwards would not be concussed? Bruss would not have blown out his knee?

We don't know how good this years intended Oline was going to be and now we'll never know.

Besides everything else, the Rams are really suffering from these 2nd and 3rd stringers not knowing the offense well enough. They're not communicating, don't know their assignments. Stafford has to call protections with Kolone in there, etc.

It's a big problem but the Rams are trying to work through it.

 by AvengerRam
2 years 8 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
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Elvis wrote:I don't see how that makes the slightest amount of sense. If Noteboom was better (not even sure what that means) his Achilles would still be in tact? Edwards would not be concussed? Bruss would not have blown out his knee?

We don't know how good this years intended Oline was going to be and now we'll never know.

Besides everything else, the Rams are really suffering from these 2nd and 3rd stringers not knowing the offense well enough. They're not communicating, don't know their assignments. Stafford has to call protections with Kolone in there, etc.

It's a big problem but the Rams are trying to work through it.

I agree.

Though, with the number of lower leg (ankle, Achilles) injuries, sometimes I wonder if there is some form of footwear or brace that OL should be wearing to mitigate against this problem.

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