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 by laram
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   444  
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
Starter

SoCalRam78 wrote:Nothing has literally happened in Carson since the plan was announced other than background noise. It's tumbleweeds. Perception isn't reality, "catching up" by how? Hiring past his prime Carmen Policy and Bob Iger to a dollar contract? Strategically dumping information on the media every week or before any meeting? The FAA articles? The only thing they did of significance was get the required local signatures to bypass an EIR, that was months ago.

It's all hot air and snippet quotes. I always believed this project was bullshit to run interference on SK and to garner Spanos sympathy and a crap load of money or a sweet lease deal with SK. I'll believe that to the end until proven otherwise. Congratulations jerk off, you've been successful at that. Spanos has also been thoroughly successful at avoiding any potential negative bit of information re: the Carson site despite the fact it sits on a toxic waste dump. "We're good" seemed to be enough to kill any further objections. If Carson was in Inglewood's position and had the better ownership, better plan, better financials, more surrounding development, the ability to build next week, and the teams remained the same, I'd say Inglewood and the Rams had zero chance.



What HE said!!

 by max
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
 Joined:  Jun 01 2015
United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

Hacksaw wrote:
den-the-coach wrote:
max wrote:
Hard to believe ESK has just been standing idly by while they were catching up, especially with Richardson trying to stack the deck.


Okay, I now like Robert Kraft better than Jerry Richardson.


I dunno. Richardson is NG according to that list and Kraft mentioned he was backing Spanos. Oh the inhumanity.


Hard to describe a 99 year old ex-ball player with a heart transplant who can't walk as a new anything.

 by max
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
 Joined:  Jun 01 2015
United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

SoCalRam78 wrote:Nothing has literally happened in Carson since the plan was announced other than background noise. It's tumbleweeds. Perception isn't reality, "catching up" by how? Hiring past his prime Carmen Policy and Bob Iger to a dollar contract? Strategically dumping information on the media every week or before any meeting? The FAA articles? The only thing they did of significance was get the required local signatures to bypass an EIR, that was months ago.

It's all hot air and snippet quotes. I always believed this project was bullshit to run interference on SK and to garner Spanos sympathy and a crap load of money or a sweet lease deal with SK. I'll believe that to the end until proven otherwise. Congratulations jerk off, you've been successful at that. Spanos has also been thoroughly successful at avoiding any potential negative bit of information re: the Carson site despite the fact it sits on a toxic waste dump. "We're good" seemed to be enough to kill any further objections. If Carson was in Inglewood's position and had the better ownership, better plan, better financials, more surrounding development, the ability to build next week, and the teams remained the same, I'd say Inglewood and the Rams had zero chance.


I still wonder if/when Team Kroenke attacks the Carson site.

I'm thinking the perfect time is early January.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Yeah, it sure seems like the gloves are coming off. ESK needs to throw a couple hay makers. If he doesn't he must feel he doesn't need to.

 by laram
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   444  
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
Starter

Hacksaw wrote:Yeah, it sure seems like the gloves are coming off. ESK needs to throw a couple hay makers. If he doesn't he must feel he doesn't need to.


He already did. You don't consider the olive branch of "let's share" a hay maker?

It was.

Look guys, here is a solution.

 by bluecoconuts
9 years 6 months ago
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Ireland   LA Coliseum
Rookie

laram wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Yeah, it sure seems like the gloves are coming off. ESK needs to throw a couple hay makers. If he doesn't he must feel he doesn't need to.


He already did. You don't consider the olive branch of "let's share" a hay maker?

It was.

Look guys, here is a solution.


That's more like a jab. A hay maker would be 'I'm going anyway, see you in court. "

 by Hacksaw
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1140&start=70 Thanks willasdad !

Jab, hay maker, bitchslap, he just needs it to land. Per the writer, this 2 to 1 talk is a bit disconcerting..
I can't believe Iger would be that stupid. I think we all spotted the collusion or conflict. This could cost Richardson billions?? This development cant hurt our side.

New Interview with Disney CEO Working on Chargers Carson Stadium Plan Raising Questions
By Derek Togerson

The Chargers and Raiders brought Disney C.E.O. Bob Iger on to their joint stadium project in Carson to try and strengthen their proposal, but sources tell NBC 7 SportsWrap Iger's recruitment could be the very thing that destroys their chances.
In an interview with Vincent Bonsignore of the Los Angeles Daily News, Iger may have shared a little too much information. He was telling the story of how he got involved with the Carson project when he revealed who specifically asked him to come on board.
"I was approached - I guess I can do this Mark, talk about the genesis in a little more detail? - I was approached by (Panthers owner) Jerry Richardson," said Iger, "and he asked whether I'd be interested in helping very specifically the partnership of the Raiders and the Chargers move to L.A., develop a stadium, reposition themselves here. I engaged in conversations with Jerry and then with both entities. That's how it came about."
The individual Iger refers to as “Mark” is Chargers special counsel Mark Fabiani, who was in the room for the interview. Fabiani did not respond to a request for comment for this story.
Jerry Richardson is the head of the Committee on Los Angeles Opportunities, a group of six NFL owners that was formed in February by Commissioner Roger Goodell. According to the memo sent at that time, the committee is supposed to “… evaluate the various stadium options available in Los Angeles, oversee the application of the relocation guidelines in the event that one or more clubs seek to move to Los Angeles, ensure proper coordination with other standing committees … and confirm that all steps taken in Los Angeles are consistent with the Constitution and Bylaws and NFL policies.”
The NFL’s official Policy and Procedures for Proposed Franchise Relocations states, in part, that the commissioner, “… may also convene a special committee to perform fact-finding or other functions with respect to any such proposed transfer.”
That verbiage suggests the six committee members are supposed to be watchdogs to help make sure the process is followed to the letter, not necessarily be part of the process.
Iger said his meeting with Richardson was also somewhat of a clandestine operation.
"When Jerry approached me, he asked for some degree of confidentiality,” said Iger. “I didn't discuss it until much later with the league."
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, two different attorneys familiar with the situation who have dealt with the NFL in the past told NBC 7 SportsWrap that Richardson’s actions could help lay the groundwork for a collusion lawsuit by either the City/County of San Diego or, more likely, Stan Kroenke and the Rams.
There are several reasons for this, according to the attorneys:
Richardson sought cooperation from an influential individual (Iger) to a specific project in the best interest of two owners (Dean Spanos and Mark Davis) and did so in a confidential manner.
This individual’s involvement is a detriment to another owner (Kroenke).
Richardson’s status as the head of the Committee on Los Angeles Opportunities, which has influence on the decision process.
There are financial ramifications for Richardson’s actions (in the billions of dollars).
Taken all together, the attorneys said, that would satisfy the conditions necessary to bring a collusion lawsuit.
It’s unknown at this time if Kroenke will take this route, but reports from the latest round of NFL owners meetings suggest his Inglewood project is trailing the Carson project almost two-to-one and he may not be able to earn enough votes to, if not win the race to Los Angeles, at least block Spanos and Davis for a while longer (it takes 24 of the 32 owners to approve a franchise relocation).
The threat of a lawsuit could very well turn the tide in Kroenke’s favor if he chooses to utilize it. Even if something that drastic does not transpire, it could force Commissioner Roger Goodell to ask Richardson to leave the L.A. Committee or even throw out any suggestions it has already made.
These seemingly simple and honest statements from Iger could represent the first impactful misstep we’ve seen in the Chargers’ strategy that has been executed by Fabiani.

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 by Ramfan46
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
Practice Squad

Just funny you don't hear anything from Policy and now Iger is the hot topic. All of their effort to keep Carson in the news might have gone up in smoke as soon as the Mickey Mouse big shot opened his mouth for the first time!

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
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 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

I just wonder what's really going on here. Let me ponder some options, perhaps some of them a little wild:

1. Richardson (and Fabiani) recruited Iger on their own, as the story suggests
2. Goodhell greenlit the recruitment of Iger in order to create more competition between ESK and Spanos, perhaps to force ESK to pony-up a better deal
3. Goodhell greenlit the recruitment of Iger in order to backstab Richardson later and slam the door on the Spanos shenanigans.

I'm sure there are plenty more devious scenarios my mind hasn't sunk low enough to comprehend yet. But what I've learned in this corporate controlled media world, it's almost impossible to figure out the truth, and it's almost always worse than we can imagine.

 by SoCalRam78
9 years 6 months ago
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 Joined:  May 25 2015
United States of America   SoCal
Pro Bowl

This isn't a small issue and is the type of stuff that will turn the time to Inglewood. NFL doesn't stomach multi billion dollar lawsuits. Wouldn't find a single reason why SK wouldn't use this to his advantage.

Richardson is a piece of crap, too. Kroenke will sue the NFL not Richardson.

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