[moklerman]

Something else about Fisher improving the talent on the team, did he do something that no other coach could have done or did he just do better than Spagnuolo. I think that's important when looking at that situation. Because there's no denying that he improved upon what Spagnuolo had done, I don't think that Fisher's really done anything remarkable or worthy of saving his job. Or that he is doing something that no one else could do if he was gone.

[Yackemflaber]

What about Sean Payton?

[moklerman]

What about Sean Payton?

He's worth considering but adds another layer to the hypothetical since he isn't actually gone from New Orleans.

Would he be willing to re-team with Williams? I don't really know the relationship there. Ultimately, it cost Payton a year from his coaching tenure when his team was at it's best. Maybe he's holding a grudge? I don't know.

But, without Williams would anyone trust Payton to put together a defense? Maybe he comes in as an OC under Fisher but that doesn't seem likely either.

All of that aside, in a vacuum, yeah, I'd take Payton.

[Yackemflaber]

Yea your probably right about putting Payton and Williams in the same organization.

[Hacksaw]

What about Sean Payton?

First off welcome to RFU Yackemflaber. 2nd that is one heck of a nickname. Love it. It makes you feel good just saying it.

I'd be all for Peyton, especially if it helped us get a hold of Drew Brees. But the boards concerns over he and GW would have to be considered. If the BountyGate debacle was on Williams but Peyton got thrown in then I'd say that might be tough sledding. And you know the Rams would suddenly get the rep worse than now. If they were into it together than I imaging they could work something out.

[dieterbrock]

Not a fan of Sean Payton even with Drew Brees. The offense is pretty mortal on the road and doesnt seem to have the teeth it once had.

[moklerman]

Not a fan of Sean Payton even with Drew Brees. The offense is pretty mortal on the road and doesnt seem to have the teeth it once had.

True, but the offense needs the right pieces just like most others. It's not a surprise that the offense has tapered off with the departure of Jimmy Graham.

But, even a depleted Saints offense with this Rams defense would still be a playoff berth IMO.

[AltiTude Ram]

I'm on the side of stability and it's my opinion the Rams are much better than when Fisher took over. Rome wasn't built in a day and the Rams are a better team than they were 4 years ago. They are still the youngest team in the NFL and are getting better. Switching coaches every couple of years has proven to be a bad plan unless you get the right guy. That doesn't happen very often. Stick with the plan and let Fisher get us to the promised land. I know there are many that want change but change doesn't necessarily bring the desired results. I don't want to see this team go through another break down rebuilding 5 year plan. The Rams need stability with the coaching staff and a few players to develop into veterans.

The only continuity I see with Fisher team is good/great defense and bad/horrible offense
I agree the talent is far superior today then when it was year 1, which is an indictment of Fisher moreso than a feather in his cap. IMO
With Spags team they were 7-8-1 and with his guys they are 4-7
Each year has gotten worse so Im not sure what this continuity is.
There has been only 1 coach in the last 50 years to have 4 straight losing seasons to open his tenure with a team and keep his job. Then he got fired 7 games in to season 7.
He's improved the talent, I'm incredibly grateful for that, but now its time for the next guy to take the team to a higher level

I get what you're saying Dieter and appreciate the way you say it. Some just want to whine and cry about coaches because that's the quick and easy fix. I respect your opinion but I stand by my beliefs that stability with a good coaching staff pays off long term. This team was in shambles when he took over. From the front office on down. They did a complete rebuild and are now on the brink of being a consistently contending team IMO. I don't want to start over again especially when I feel we are this close. I'm a big Pat Kirwan fan and he's made this point a few times much better than I just did.

[Hacksaw]

There's a cocky in your face don't back down make 'em pay swagger that he brings too.

[dieterbrock]

There's a cocky in your face don't back down make 'em pay swagger that he brings too.

Its true and I do like that. Especially when I dont pay attention to the, well you know,
the scoreboard....
Lol