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 by Hacksaw_64
8 years 11 months ago
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United States of America   Inglewood, CA
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Rams Dominate wrote:Dodgers just beat the Orioles 7-5 for their 5th straight win & 10th straight at home, Baez winning pitcher, Urias was throwing line drive pitches & Orioles went 3-0 but the Dodgers fought back & Seager had another multiple hit game...
Ryu to start Thursday against the Padres...


I'm really liking the way this years team battles back in games. Big win last night. I really don't care for Baez going in for much longer than one batter though ;)

 by Rams Dominate
8 years 11 months ago
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Ireland   Monterey Peninsula
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Hacksaw_64 wrote:
Rams Dominate wrote:Dodgers just beat the Orioles 7-5 for their 5th straight win & 10th straight at home, Baez winning pitcher, Urias was throwing line drive pitches & Orioles went 3-0 but the Dodgers fought back & Seager had another multiple hit game...
Ryu to start Thursday against the Padres...


I'm really liking the way this years team battles back in games. Big win last night. I really don't care for Baez going in for much longer than one batter though ;)


Baez pitched 2 innings last night Hacksaw, blew them away...Our bullpen is really good right now, Roberts is getting the correct match-ups & the bp is delivering... Maeda pitches tonight, Ryu Thursday...

 by Hacksaw_64
8 years 11 months ago
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 by Rams Dominate
8 years 11 months ago
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Ireland   Monterey Peninsula
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I think that HomeRun Derby has ruined more swings than we know, I was really ticked off when I saw Seager was in the HomeRun Derby & had accepted...Just think back to last year when Pederson was the Runner-up, he came back swinging for the fences on every pitch & personally I still don't think he's recovered, he swings so hard he almost screws himself into the ground...
Seager has a short. quick, sweet swing, I'd hate to see that swing ruined with him trying to become something he's not, he's a short swing contact hitter that uses the entire field & I love how selective he is...

 by Rams Dominate
8 years 11 months ago
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Ryu got hammered tonight, 6 runs in 6 innings, 70 something pitches, but looked ok, certainly not the Ryu we're used to seeing but "baby steps folks"
our starting pitching is fleshing out but none of them can go 6 innings so far, which will eventually wear out a bullpen, instead our pen is going 5 innings with the "pen" picking up the slack, I'm thankful the All Star game is Tuesday...
6-0 Padres, going to the 8th, Dodgers with 2 hits...

 by Hacksaw_64
8 years 11 months ago
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United States of America   Inglewood, CA
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Rams Dominate wrote:Ryu got hammered tonight, 6 runs in 6 innings, 70 something pitches, but looked ok, certainly not the Ryu we're used to seeing but "baby steps folks"
our starting pitching is fleshing out but none of them can go 6 innings so far, which will eventually wear out a bullpen, instead our pen is going 5 innings with the "pen" picking up the slack, I'm thankful the All Star game is Tuesday...
6-0 Padres, going to the 8th, Dodgers with 2 hits...



Ryu's fastball velocity was down to 84-86 mph by the sixth inning. not a good sign.


Here's an article about it.


Hyun-Jin Ryu is back, but expectations should be tempered

Dustin Nosler July 7, 2016

Hyun-Jin Ryu is back. Well, in a sense. He’s back insofar as he’s going to start tonight’s game against the Padres against Drew Pomeranz. But it remains to be seen if he’s actually back.

Ryu has missed the last season-and-a-half after having shoulder surgery last May. He has not appeared in a Major League game since Game 3 of the 2014 National League Division Series (Oct. 6, 2014) — a 6-inning, 1-run performance on the road against the Cardinals. In that game, Ryu averaged 92.8 MPH on his 4-seam fastball. Normally, he would sit around 91 MPH and top out at 95 MPH with his fastball before his injury.

Reports from Ryu’s rehab having him anywhere from the 85-88 MPH range and “touching” 90 MPH. Or in other words:

For a guy who averaged 91 MPH on his fastball, averaging 88 is quite the difference. And there isn’t much reason to think he’ll regain that lost 3 MPH.

Ryu is a former Tommy John surgery recipient, and it almost feels like it would have been better if he were coming back from an elbow injury. Shoulder injuries are much more worrisome than elbow injures (though, neither are preferred). Brandon McCarthy — despite it being just one outing — showed promise after coming back from TJ with plus-velocity. The chance for him to be a significant contributor the rest of this season is much better than Ryu’s.

Ryu did have plus command before the injury, but it remains to be seen if he still does. That is less concerning than the diminished velocity. And with the lower velo, Ryu is going to have to be pinpoint with his command. Not many pitchers — lefties or otherwise — have sustained success sitting at 88 MPH.

The pitch that might suffer most as a result of this is his changeup. It was his go-to secondary pitch in his first two seasons, but there’s no telling how effective it’s going to be with a slower fastball. He might have to rely on his breaking pitches, which showed some improvement since his professional debut.

It’s often forgotten just how good Ryu was in his first two seasons. He had a 3.17 ERA, 2.97 FIP, 3.27 xFIP, 49.2 GB%, 20.7 K%, 5.5 BB%, 7.5 HR/FB% and averaged 172 innings and 3.7 fWAR. He was nearly a 4-win pitcher without even cracking 200 innings. He was quite the productive pitcher. He looked like he was rounding into form and ready to take off. Then, baseball happened.

Barring anything unforeseen, Ryu’s performance shouldn’t preclude the Dodgers from acquiring a pitcher before the Aug. 1 trade deadline.

It’s probably best not to expect much from Ryu this season. That was, if he doesn’t come close to regaining his old form, it’s less of a disappointment. It’s highly unlikely — at least this season — that Ryu is the guy he was before the injury. He was a legitimate No. 2 starter. Now, if he’s a decent No. 4/5 starter, that’d be a huge win. Then again, even that feels optimistic.

http://dodgersdigest.com/2016/07/07/dod ... -tempered/

 by snackdaddy
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McCarthy's debut was good. Ryu's was not. That type of surgery is hit and miss. Some come back just fine, others don't. They gotta trade for a pitcher. They got Norris but he's pretty much just a journeyman starter. 4th or 5th type of guy. Rich Hill from the A's would be a good candidate. He's having a solid year. A little late in the game for him at 36, but they could rent his services for a half season. James Shields is having a down year, but he's shown he can perform in big games. Maybe a change of scenery for him? He's got an opt out option this year, so he's got plenty of reason to up his game.

 by Rams Dominate
8 years 11 months ago
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snackdaddy wrote:McCarthy's debut was good. Ryu's was not. That type of surgery is hit and miss. Some come back just fine, others don't. They gotta trade for a pitcher. They got Norris but he's pretty much just a journeyman starter. 4th or 5th type of guy. Rich Hill from the A's would be a good candidate. He's having a solid year. A little late in the game for him at 36, but they could rent his services for a half season. James Shields is having a down year, but he's shown he can perform in big games. Maybe a change of scenery for him? He's got an opt out option this year, so he's got plenty of reason to up his game.


I'm watching the final game by the Dodgers before the All-Star break & Steiner (Dodgers announcer) just said that Roberts post All-Star starting staff will include Ryu according to him...

9th inning here, Dodgers 3 Padres 1, Maeda has been brilliant including 13 strikeouts, Kenley Jansen closing, Padres just got an infield hit...Jansen can't throw strikes right now, runners 1st & 2nd, no outs... Jansen just K'd Myers, 1 out, Kemp up, STRIKEOUT! 2 on, 2 out... Golarte batting, flied out to Van Slyke in left field...DODGERS 3 PADRES 1 FINAL...

 by snackdaddy
8 years 11 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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Rams Dominate wrote:
snackdaddy wrote:McCarthy's debut was good. Ryu's was not. That type of surgery is hit and miss. Some come back just fine, others don't. They gotta trade for a pitcher. They got Norris but he's pretty much just a journeyman starter. 4th or 5th type of guy. Rich Hill from the A's would be a good candidate. He's having a solid year. A little late in the game for him at 36, but they could rent his services for a half season. James Shields is having a down year, but he's shown he can perform in big games. Maybe a change of scenery for him? He's got an opt out option this year, so he's got plenty of reason to up his game.


I'm watching the final game by the Dodgers before the All-Star break & Steiner (Dodgers announcer) just said that Roberts post All-Star starting staff will include Ryu according to him...

9th inning here, Dodgers 3 Padres 1, Maeda has been brilliant including 13 strikeouts, Kenley Jansen closing, Padres just got an infield hit...Jansen can't throw strikes right now, runners 1st & 2nd, no outs... Jansen just K'd Myers, 1 out, Kemp up, STRIKEOUT! 2 on, 2 out... Golarte batting, flied out to Van Slyke in left field...DODGERS 3 PADRES 1 FINAL...


I understand why Ryu would be in the starting rotation. He was a key part of their rotation the past few years and pitched well. You gotta give him every opportunity to get back to where he was. You just gotta cross your fingers and hope for the best. They said his velocity was ok early in the game. It just decreased a lot sooner than expected. He might need more time. If he can slowly gain strength and be back to where he was come August/September, it would go a long way to helping them make the playoffs. They're hanging in there without Kershaw.

 by Rams Dominate
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snackdaddy, you might want to go to dodgers.com & read what they have in mind as far as pitching...Kershaw did some light pitching off a mound today & said he threw all his pitches with no problem, Roberts said no Kershaw until "after" the upcoming road trip (10 games) where he will use a 5 man rotation & no I can't remember who they are but Ryu is one of them...LOL
Bumgarner had a perfect game going into the 8th inning today against 'Zona, forget who got a clean hit to break it up, they brought in a reliever to finish up cuz when whoever got that hit Bumgarner was at 117 pitches & needing 6 more outs to finish...
Giants have the best record in baseball & everybody is playing well that I saw & Buster Posey is starting to heat up...

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