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Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by Elvis
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Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

Leigh Steinberg

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The twenty year void of NFL football in Los Angeles seems certain to come to an end in 2016. The owners will not vote on this issue until January and maybe later, so all reporting is just speculation. I think the most likely scenario is this: the Rams move to Los Angeles this next off-season and the Chargers will join them. The Raiders will end up in St. Louis.

I am not advocating this scenario. Had the NFL stopped the Colts from leaving Baltimore and the Cardinals from leaving St. Louis in the first place, the franchise merry-go-round would have been prevented. The NFL should have granted expansion franchises to St. Louis and Baltimore in 1995 instead of Carolina and Jacksonville. NFL franchises are not pure unencumbered private businesses. They ask for an artificial identification with the people who support them, “YOUR San Diego Chargers”. They ask to be supported win or lose. It makes no sense to break the hearts of the fans of teams like the Chargers and Raiders. Franchise movement is not in the best interest of professional sports.

The only circumstance in which a team should leave is when there is no economic alternative and weak interest in a fan base. This is why I helped San Francisco Mayor Frank Jordan in our “Save The Giants” campaign when the team threatened to move. It is why I helped Oakland Mayor Elihu Harris “Save the A’s” when they contemplated leaving. And it is why I fought for a year as co-Chairman of “Save the Rams” to keep them in Southern California.

The current round of potential franchise movement is not about fans–it is about state of the art stadia and bottom line franchise valuation. Fifteen million people within two hours of a stadium on a Sunday is a powerful lure. The nation’s second largest television market, with a massive number of corporations and especially the entertainment industry, guarantees a doubling of franchise value. The NFL has tried to return football to Los Angeles for years, granting a 2000 franchise to the area. When Los Angeles didn’t deliver a stadium, the franchise went to Houston.

Economics, not fan interests, will rule the day, and football will return to Los Angeles.

St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke seems steadfast in his desire to leave. He has massive economic resources, a viable stadium plan, and it is inevitable that he returns the team to Los Angeles. While I disagree with the principle, I fell in love with football watching the Rams play in the Coliseum in the 50′s and will rejoice in their return. The Rams were here for almost fifty years, they have a loyal Southern California fan base waiting for them. The Chargers seem unwilling to make a deal with San Diego. This political stalemate risks disenfranchising a large and loyal fan base. The Chargers will probably make a deal with the Rams owner and co-habit the Inglewood site. The teams will play at a site like the Coliseum, until the new stadium is built.

​Oakland is a city with many economic challenges. Building a state of the art stadium for the Raiders to play in is not a top priority. This is a sad state for Raider faithful. If decisive action is not taken in Oakland, they are in danger not only of losing the Raiders, but also losing the Warriors to San Francisco, and the A’s to the San Jose area. St. Louis has many advantages as a football town and Mark Davis can take advantage of the effort being made currently to keep the Rams.​

The decision on Los Angeles football is still several months away and the situation is fluid and unsettled. When the dust settles, the Rams and Chargers in Los Angeles and the Raiders in St. Louis seems like the most likely scenario.

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by Stranger
Quite frankly, I would hate to see the Raiders in STL.... it just doesn't seem like a good fit to me.

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by Hacksaw
Agreed. He doesn't have the money to pay for the thing anyway. The task force expects 600 million from the team. That will stretch them to thin. Haven't he gone on record as saying no to St Louis too.
Part of me hopes they never get another team ever. Sorry that's a bad attitude but they have not been the most outstanding group over there

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by moklerman
Hacksaw wrote:Agreed. He doesn't have the money to pay for the thing anyway. The task force expects 600 million from the team. That will stretch them to thin. Haven't he gone on record as saying no to St Louis too.
Part of me hopes they never get another team ever. Sorry that's a bad attitude but they have not been the most outstanding group over there
Not only that, they haven't exactly projected an owner-friendly arrangement recently. The didn't fulfill their end of the lease and they basically don't want their NFL team to benefit from owning a team in St. Louis.

If Davis was going to go anywhere, I'd say San Antonio looked a lot more appealing that St. Louis.

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by snackdaddy
Stranger wrote:Quite frankly, I would hate to see the Raiders in STL.... it just doesn't seem like a good fit to me.


Me too. I like the Raiders. They're my second favorite team. My oldest son lives in Hayward, works in Oakland and is a big Raiders fan. Losing them to St. Louis would devastate a lot of local fans. And I thought Davis had no interest in STL? Didn't he say STL doesn't work for the Raiders?

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by SoCalRam78
Agree on first part, but St. Louis and the Raiders will never happen. That offer/market aren't good enough to entice a team to move and pay a relocation fee.

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by Hacksaw
SoCalRam78 wrote:Agree on first part, but St. Louis and the Raiders will never happen. That offer/market aren't good enough to entice a team to move and pay a relocation fee.

Unless the relocation fee is a $1. The fee is relative to the market.

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by Elvis
St. Louis might be worth a relocation credit...

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by Hacksaw
moklerman wrote:If Davis was going to go anywhere, I'd say San Antonio looked a lot more appealing than St. Louis.


The Raiders belong is Oakland. If it takes a while longer to get a financial pkg, sprucing up Alameda would keep folks happy. As long as the team is competitive.
Part of the NFL mystique is the vintage aura of many of the franchises. When talking in terms of half centurys, that isn't something to mess with. 3 teams moving at once would be a seismic shift. I don't think part B of the writers report is accurate..
For the record, I'm opposed to relocation,, not restoration though.

Re: Most Likely NFL Relocation Scenarios: Rams And Chargers To LA, Raiders To St. Louis

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by BuiltRamTough
Anytime someone says "Raiders to STL" they lose all credibility with me.