by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #11 R4L liked this post Elvis wrote:Like you say, Warner is a SB winning 2 time MVP HOF QB.Goff is half way through his 3rd year, we don't know how his story will turn out.I sure do like where it's heading but he's got a ways to go...100% no doubt.But he feels like a franchise QB to me.Warner never did. Martz created a machine that other QBs worked well within.Warner got into the HOF as much with the Cardinals as with the Rams. The Cardinals had the personel for Warner to work well with. As he did those few short magical years with the Rams. He absolutely failed miserably with the Giants.You can't ignore that. 1 by Elvis 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 38377 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #12 TOPIC AUTHOR SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:100% no doubt.But he feels like a franchise QB to me.Warner never did. Martz created a machine that other QBs worked well within.Warner got into the HOF as much with the Cardinals as with the Rams. The Cardinals had the personel for Warner to work well with. As he did those few short magical years with the Rams. He absolutely failed miserably with the Giants.You can't ignore that.Believe me i don't have one negative thought about Goff. But let's not forget just how well things were going midway through Warner's 3rd year as a Ram.I give Martz a ton of credit for Warner but same with McVay and Goff. Look at what McVay did with Cousins in DC and what Fisher did to Goff in '16.Coaching matters too, a lot.In fact i think it's pretty clear we haven't had a coach/QB combo this good since Martz and Warner.This clearly has the potential to be better but that remains to be seen... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #13 Last edited by SWAdude on Nov 13 2018, edited 1 time in total. Elvis wrote:Believe me i don't have one negative thought about Goff. But let's not forget just how well things were going midway through Warner's 3rd year as a Ram.I give Martz a ton of credit for Warner but same with McVay and Goff. Look at what McVay did with Cousins in DC and what Fisher did to Goff in '16.Coaching matters too, a lot.In fact i think it's pretty clear we haven't had a coach/QB combo this good since Martz and Warner.This clearly has the potential to be better but that remains to be seen...These are all good points.I think to me this is more of where do we find us now. Do you see Goff a Ram ten years from now? After three years. I do.After four years Warner was kicked to the curb and the third year got ugly.Bulger replaced him with the Whiner game in SFO. I was at that game.Respectfully, I remember how I felt in 2003 and Warner was in question. We are talking Rams. Not Giants or Cardinals. by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #14 I guess the real question here is what defines a franchise QB for a team?Brady? Rodgers? Brees?Is Brees a franchise QB with the Chargers?Not when they got rid of him I believe. by AvengerRam 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #15 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett. 2 by dieterbrock 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #16 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post AvengerRam wrote:I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett.I’d love to see Goff have his “Everett to Flipper Anderson - straight to the locker room” moment 2 by /zn/ 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #17 SWAdude liked this post I never think that the term "franchise qb" is the same as "elite qb." "FQ" is the larger set and "EQ" is a subset of that. It remains to be seen if Goff becomes an elite qb (though he has the makings of it), but he already is a franchise qb. He's been that for a while. I just think a franchise qb is a starter you have every intention of keeping and building around. You have confidence in him as your starter, and all things remaining normal (like no major injury) he's not on probation in any way. Goff already is all that. And one day we may be putting Goff in the "elite" conversation, but that will come after more seasoning and experience. In terms of coach and qb, I never believed Martz MADE Warner and the proof of that came in Arizona's run with Warner at qb. I always thought that with Martz and Warner you had a good offensive coach AND a good qb. Injuries and PR disputes ended that relationship, but I don't see anything like that happening with McV and Goff. McV just does not have Martz's "crazy" gene, so the likelihood of some strange parting of the ways is just much smaller. I fully expect McV and Goff to be a pair for years. ... 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 38377 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #12 TOPIC AUTHOR SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:100% no doubt.But he feels like a franchise QB to me.Warner never did. Martz created a machine that other QBs worked well within.Warner got into the HOF as much with the Cardinals as with the Rams. The Cardinals had the personel for Warner to work well with. As he did those few short magical years with the Rams. He absolutely failed miserably with the Giants.You can't ignore that.Believe me i don't have one negative thought about Goff. But let's not forget just how well things were going midway through Warner's 3rd year as a Ram.I give Martz a ton of credit for Warner but same with McVay and Goff. Look at what McVay did with Cousins in DC and what Fisher did to Goff in '16.Coaching matters too, a lot.In fact i think it's pretty clear we haven't had a coach/QB combo this good since Martz and Warner.This clearly has the potential to be better but that remains to be seen... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #13 Last edited by SWAdude on Nov 13 2018, edited 1 time in total. Elvis wrote:Believe me i don't have one negative thought about Goff. But let's not forget just how well things were going midway through Warner's 3rd year as a Ram.I give Martz a ton of credit for Warner but same with McVay and Goff. Look at what McVay did with Cousins in DC and what Fisher did to Goff in '16.Coaching matters too, a lot.In fact i think it's pretty clear we haven't had a coach/QB combo this good since Martz and Warner.This clearly has the potential to be better but that remains to be seen...These are all good points.I think to me this is more of where do we find us now. Do you see Goff a Ram ten years from now? After three years. I do.After four years Warner was kicked to the curb and the third year got ugly.Bulger replaced him with the Whiner game in SFO. I was at that game.Respectfully, I remember how I felt in 2003 and Warner was in question. We are talking Rams. Not Giants or Cardinals. by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #14 I guess the real question here is what defines a franchise QB for a team?Brady? Rodgers? Brees?Is Brees a franchise QB with the Chargers?Not when they got rid of him I believe. by AvengerRam 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #15 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett. 2 by dieterbrock 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #16 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post AvengerRam wrote:I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett.I’d love to see Goff have his “Everett to Flipper Anderson - straight to the locker room” moment 2 by /zn/ 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #17 SWAdude liked this post I never think that the term "franchise qb" is the same as "elite qb." "FQ" is the larger set and "EQ" is a subset of that. It remains to be seen if Goff becomes an elite qb (though he has the makings of it), but he already is a franchise qb. He's been that for a while. I just think a franchise qb is a starter you have every intention of keeping and building around. You have confidence in him as your starter, and all things remaining normal (like no major injury) he's not on probation in any way. Goff already is all that. And one day we may be putting Goff in the "elite" conversation, but that will come after more seasoning and experience. In terms of coach and qb, I never believed Martz MADE Warner and the proof of that came in Arizona's run with Warner at qb. I always thought that with Martz and Warner you had a good offensive coach AND a good qb. Injuries and PR disputes ended that relationship, but I don't see anything like that happening with McV and Goff. McV just does not have Martz's "crazy" gene, so the likelihood of some strange parting of the ways is just much smaller. I fully expect McV and Goff to be a pair for years. ... 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #13 Last edited by SWAdude on Nov 13 2018, edited 1 time in total. Elvis wrote:Believe me i don't have one negative thought about Goff. But let's not forget just how well things were going midway through Warner's 3rd year as a Ram.I give Martz a ton of credit for Warner but same with McVay and Goff. Look at what McVay did with Cousins in DC and what Fisher did to Goff in '16.Coaching matters too, a lot.In fact i think it's pretty clear we haven't had a coach/QB combo this good since Martz and Warner.This clearly has the potential to be better but that remains to be seen...These are all good points.I think to me this is more of where do we find us now. Do you see Goff a Ram ten years from now? After three years. I do.After four years Warner was kicked to the curb and the third year got ugly.Bulger replaced him with the Whiner game in SFO. I was at that game.Respectfully, I remember how I felt in 2003 and Warner was in question. We are talking Rams. Not Giants or Cardinals. by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #14 I guess the real question here is what defines a franchise QB for a team?Brady? Rodgers? Brees?Is Brees a franchise QB with the Chargers?Not when they got rid of him I believe. by AvengerRam 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #15 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett. 2 by dieterbrock 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #16 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post AvengerRam wrote:I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett.I’d love to see Goff have his “Everett to Flipper Anderson - straight to the locker room” moment 2 by /zn/ 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #17 SWAdude liked this post I never think that the term "franchise qb" is the same as "elite qb." "FQ" is the larger set and "EQ" is a subset of that. It remains to be seen if Goff becomes an elite qb (though he has the makings of it), but he already is a franchise qb. He's been that for a while. I just think a franchise qb is a starter you have every intention of keeping and building around. You have confidence in him as your starter, and all things remaining normal (like no major injury) he's not on probation in any way. Goff already is all that. And one day we may be putting Goff in the "elite" conversation, but that will come after more seasoning and experience. In terms of coach and qb, I never believed Martz MADE Warner and the proof of that came in Arizona's run with Warner at qb. I always thought that with Martz and Warner you had a good offensive coach AND a good qb. Injuries and PR disputes ended that relationship, but I don't see anything like that happening with McV and Goff. McV just does not have Martz's "crazy" gene, so the likelihood of some strange parting of the ways is just much smaller. I fully expect McV and Goff to be a pair for years. ... 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SWAdude 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2440 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #14 I guess the real question here is what defines a franchise QB for a team?Brady? Rodgers? Brees?Is Brees a franchise QB with the Chargers?Not when they got rid of him I believe. by AvengerRam 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #15 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett. 2 by dieterbrock 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #16 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post AvengerRam wrote:I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett.I’d love to see Goff have his “Everett to Flipper Anderson - straight to the locker room” moment 2 by /zn/ 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #17 SWAdude liked this post I never think that the term "franchise qb" is the same as "elite qb." "FQ" is the larger set and "EQ" is a subset of that. It remains to be seen if Goff becomes an elite qb (though he has the makings of it), but he already is a franchise qb. He's been that for a while. I just think a franchise qb is a starter you have every intention of keeping and building around. You have confidence in him as your starter, and all things remaining normal (like no major injury) he's not on probation in any way. Goff already is all that. And one day we may be putting Goff in the "elite" conversation, but that will come after more seasoning and experience. In terms of coach and qb, I never believed Martz MADE Warner and the proof of that came in Arizona's run with Warner at qb. I always thought that with Martz and Warner you had a good offensive coach AND a good qb. Injuries and PR disputes ended that relationship, but I don't see anything like that happening with McV and Goff. McV just does not have Martz's "crazy" gene, so the likelihood of some strange parting of the ways is just much smaller. I fully expect McV and Goff to be a pair for years. ... 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by AvengerRam 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #15 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett. 2 by dieterbrock 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #16 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post AvengerRam wrote:I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett.I’d love to see Goff have his “Everett to Flipper Anderson - straight to the locker room” moment 2 by /zn/ 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #17 SWAdude liked this post I never think that the term "franchise qb" is the same as "elite qb." "FQ" is the larger set and "EQ" is a subset of that. It remains to be seen if Goff becomes an elite qb (though he has the makings of it), but he already is a franchise qb. He's been that for a while. I just think a franchise qb is a starter you have every intention of keeping and building around. You have confidence in him as your starter, and all things remaining normal (like no major injury) he's not on probation in any way. Goff already is all that. And one day we may be putting Goff in the "elite" conversation, but that will come after more seasoning and experience. In terms of coach and qb, I never believed Martz MADE Warner and the proof of that came in Arizona's run with Warner at qb. I always thought that with Martz and Warner you had a good offensive coach AND a good qb. Injuries and PR disputes ended that relationship, but I don't see anything like that happening with McV and Goff. McV just does not have Martz's "crazy" gene, so the likelihood of some strange parting of the ways is just much smaller. I fully expect McV and Goff to be a pair for years. ... 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024
by dieterbrock 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #16 SWAdude, elmendorf liked this post AvengerRam wrote:I think the best comparison for Goff is Everett, as both started their careers with the Rams and came in with the expectation of being a franchise QB. Like Everett, Goff’s legacy will be based, to a large degree, on how he fares in the postseason. Time will tell...but I think the kid will find that moment of glory that evaded Everett.I’d love to see Goff have his “Everett to Flipper Anderson - straight to the locker room” moment 2 by /zn/ 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #17 SWAdude liked this post I never think that the term "franchise qb" is the same as "elite qb." "FQ" is the larger set and "EQ" is a subset of that. It remains to be seen if Goff becomes an elite qb (though he has the makings of it), but he already is a franchise qb. He's been that for a while. I just think a franchise qb is a starter you have every intention of keeping and building around. You have confidence in him as your starter, and all things remaining normal (like no major injury) he's not on probation in any way. Goff already is all that. And one day we may be putting Goff in the "elite" conversation, but that will come after more seasoning and experience. In terms of coach and qb, I never believed Martz MADE Warner and the proof of that came in Arizona's run with Warner at qb. I always thought that with Martz and Warner you had a good offensive coach AND a good qb. Injuries and PR disputes ended that relationship, but I don't see anything like that happening with McV and Goff. McV just does not have Martz's "crazy" gene, so the likelihood of some strange parting of the ways is just much smaller. I fully expect McV and Goff to be a pair for years. ... 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024
by /zn/ 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #17 SWAdude liked this post I never think that the term "franchise qb" is the same as "elite qb." "FQ" is the larger set and "EQ" is a subset of that. It remains to be seen if Goff becomes an elite qb (though he has the makings of it), but he already is a franchise qb. He's been that for a while. I just think a franchise qb is a starter you have every intention of keeping and building around. You have confidence in him as your starter, and all things remaining normal (like no major injury) he's not on probation in any way. Goff already is all that. And one day we may be putting Goff in the "elite" conversation, but that will come after more seasoning and experience. In terms of coach and qb, I never believed Martz MADE Warner and the proof of that came in Arizona's run with Warner at qb. I always thought that with Martz and Warner you had a good offensive coach AND a good qb. Injuries and PR disputes ended that relationship, but I don't see anything like that happening with McV and Goff. McV just does not have Martz's "crazy" gene, so the likelihood of some strange parting of the ways is just much smaller. I fully expect McV and Goff to be a pair for years. ... 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024
by snackdaddy 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 9631 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #18 SWAdude liked this post I find it satisfying how at one time people were labeling Goff a bust and saying we picked the wrong guy. There was a time everyone said Prescott was the best quarterback in that draft. What do those people think now? We're in an instant gratification society where if a rookie doesn't take off people are questioning if he should have been picked. Year 3 and its clear we got the right guy. 1 by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024
by PARAM 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 12184 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #19 Last edited by PARAM on Nov 14 2018, edited 1 time in total. azramsfan93, dieterbrock liked this post Everett was a franchise QB, elite for a whileWarner was a franchise QB, elite twice surrounding a rough patchBulger was a franchise QB, elite also, maybe longer than Everett but less than WarnerGoff is a franchise QB who is also elite. FWIW, he's the first Ram QB with back to back 3,000 yard seasons since Bulger (2003-04).The last two seasons (season and a half) he's 523 of 809 (64.6%) for 6938 yds (8.58 yds/att) with 50 TDs and 13 Ints for a QB rating of 105.6. His team is 20-5 in games he's started. He's got a 6.2 TD% and a 1.6 Int%. Those numbers scream elite. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 54 posts Mar 28 2024
by Flash 5 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1203 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl The California Cool of Jared Goff POST #20 PARAM, SWAdude, azramsfan93 and 2 others liked this post While watching the Eagles game last Sunday I was thinking we drafted the right QB. RFU Season Ticket Holder 5 Reply 2 / 6 1 2 6 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business