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 by rams74
6 years 8 months ago
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Italy   Glendale, Arizona
Pro Bowl

Dick84 wrote:Draft tall and fast DBs.

No more shrimps. No one under 5-10, period.

I want a big, fast, physical secondary. I think you can coach a lot of athletes up. Seahawks have done that.

Guys like Christian can learn and improve.

No more Joyners who are “physical for their size”.


I hear that Trumaine Johnson might become available soon.

 by AvengerRam
6 years 8 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
Hall of Fame

Not to create an equine smoothie, but the CB we're waiting to return is pretty big (6'1, 209).

 by sloramfan
6 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   cen coast cal
Pro Bowl

marcus peters is only 6-0 tall..

not sure why, but for some reason i thought he was taller than AT..

i think the premise applies to any position, draft big, fast, and physical...

very few, though there are, exceptions to that thinking...

go rams

slo

 by Extremes
6 years 8 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 20 2018
Belarus   LA
Practice Squad

I want the Rams to enjoy the same home field advantage the seahawks get. We have no homefield advantage.

 by aeneas1
6 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

Dick84 wrote:The tall is specifically important, imo, to DBs. That length allows a corner to use the boundary to their advantage. Makes the window for throwing over them that much smaller. It’s alsi simply a matchup reality in the NFL.
The one DB spot this does not impact as much is the slot where quickness is king.

i like the premise, but how many top dbs coming into the league are tall? especially corners? safeties tend to be taller than corners, altho arguably the best safety in the league over the past 9 years, earl thomas of the seahawks, is only 5-10... one thing is certain, seattle, i.e. carroll, has done one friggin' amazing job with that defense, year in and year out - despite all of their personnel losses this season, they rank 5th in offensive points allowed, and 3rd in offensive scoring per drive allowed thru week 9- if this continues, it will be the 8th time in carroll's 9 years as seattle's head coach that their defense finished top 5 in offensive points allowed, that's some impressive shit.

pff's top 20 corners and safeties thru week 9, including height:

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 by aeneas1
6 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

Dick84 wrote:I like it for constructing a D. I also like it for tackling.
Yes... I’m not taking a Earl Thomas or a Denzel Ward off the board for being undersized.
But.. outside of the first round, especially, i would go with the tall fast guys to develop.

i hear ya but, again, how many 6+ corners are available in the draft each year, that grade out as quality corners? seems that the available pool is overwhelmingly sub 6'0" guys.

 by PARAM
6 years 8 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

rams74 wrote:I hear that Trumaine Johnson might become available soon.


Man is the NY press lambasting him!!!

"He won't answer if he's lobbying to get back on the field"

He just keeps saying, it's up to the trainers.

 by chris98251
6 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Seattle
Undrafted Free Agent

Pete goes for size but also arm length 34 inches I think is typically where they draw the line, why because with the size and then the arm length you can get an advantage with tipping and reaching and stripping the ball, also a lot harder to drop it over a WR's shoulder as well. Throw in a attitude and willing to run support and you have a Seahawks DB. Thomas is shorter but he isn't asked to pass defense as much as cover the deep over the top ball as well as go from sideline to sideline to help where the ball is going and meeting them with a bang or getting there for over throws and a interception. He also can see the formations and with his speed crash gaps for run support.

 by aeneas1
6 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

saints have a bunch of tall, long-armed dbs yet rank 29th in qb rating allowed, 30th in yards per pass attempt allowed, 27th in offensive points allowed, etc., just sayin'...

 by R4L
6 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Dayton, Ohio
Pro Bowl

Dick84 wrote:The tall is specifically important, imo, to DBs. That length allows a corner to use the boundary to their advantage. Makes the window for throwing over them that much smaller. It’s alsi simply a matchup reality in the NFL.
The one DB spot this does not impact as much is the slot where quickness is king.


Ron Bartell and Ryan McNeil come to mind as former Ram CBs that were 6-2.

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