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He stunk in Wash and he's not good in LA.

Why is that?

Last year the Rams were 5th in offensive TDs per game and 1st in points per play so i have a hard time thinking they had any kind of problem...

Last year, the Rams were 17th in the NFL in Red Zone TD %. Their ranking in RZ TD% was similar among playoff teams (7th out of 12).

Interestingly, though, they were 2nd (behind New England) in both RZ opportunities/game and RZ TDs/game.

So, to start, I'd say that the Rams are not exactly bad in the RZ, but there is definitely room for improvement.

I don't have a single answer for why the Rams are not better in the RZ.

It could be McVay's RZ playcalling, which has, at times, been a bit vanilla.
It could be Goff who, at times, seems to have locked on a receiver and rushed throws in the RZ.
It could be the lack of a big receiver who can win jump balls (put out an APB on the TEs).

I think its fair to say that all of these factors, and probably a few others, have contributed.

Definitely worth watching this, but I'm hopeful that it will improve over time.

max wrote:Why is that?

What GM ever gave him a physical jump-ball type receiver? That's why.

I'm not gonna lay 100 %of the blame on McVay (even though he does). Let's be realistic.... we basicly had a 1st year QB last year.

McVay and Goff have both said they need to improve in the RZ dating back to last year. They certainly aren't the worst in the league, but anyone with eyes can see that there is a ton of room for improvement. Still, hard to complain about RZ productivity when you have one of the highest scoring offenses in the sport.

To me, one of the Rams biggest deficiencies last year was they didn't run a lot of offensive plays, 19th in the league yet we had the 3rd highest scoring offense and as i said were 1st in points per play.

That's crazy good offensive efficiency which is why i don't think the RZ numbers are particularly relevant. If we were a low scoring inefficient offense, sure, but we're not...

AvengerRam wrote:Last year, the Rams were 17th in the NFL in Red Zone TD %. Their ranking in RZ TD% was similar among playoff teams (7th out of 12).

Interestingly, though, they were 2nd (behind New England) in both RZ opportunities/game and RZ TDs/game.

So, to start, I'd say that the Rams are not exactly bad in the RZ, but there is definitely room for improvement.

I don't have a single answer for why the Rams are not better in the RZ.

It could be McVay's RZ playcalling, which has, at times, been a bit vanilla.
It could be Goff who, at times, seems to have locked on a receiver and rushed throws in the RZ.
It could be the lack of a big receiver who can win jump balls (put out an APB on the TEs).

I think its fair to say that all of these factors, and probably a few others, have contributed.

Definitely worth watching this, but I'm hopeful that it will improve over time.

My take is similar to yours . Lot of things to consider on this. First, there's a stat for the qb on percentage of TDs per attempts inside the 10, and Goff started off ranked pretty low on that last year and then improved. He ended up I think 5th in the league, which is especially good because he started the season much lower than that. And he improved after they openly said they were going to address RZ issues. So it's not Goff.

Last year they were 17th in this stat: Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) ...that's found here--

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/r ... 2018-02-05

In 2016 with McVay as the coordinator, Washington was ranked 30th on that stat.

So it's an old issue.

Can they improve? Yes there's room to improve. Should we just ignore or dismiss it? I can just answer for me. I am always a realist so I want to call things as they are, good and bad, all at the same time. So I am one of those who won't ignore this, even though I am also one of those who talks up the good things too.

So I agree they can improve on this.

I have seen this discussion before and one way it tends to go is to talk about find a redzone mismatch threat, so that it becomes an issue of personnel. I have doubts about that way of looking at it. The GSOT did not have anyone who fits the usual description of a physical redzone threat (like a big receiver). And on the other hand in 2016 Washington did have guys like that (Davis, Reed, Garcon) and they were pretty mediocre anyway.

I think the issue has to do with play design, play selection, and execution. I think McV & co. just need to get better all the way around at redzone offense.

Though for all we know at this point, they have already taken steps to do that since last season, but it just hasn't showed up in the numbers yet.

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AvengerRam wrote:Last year, the Rams were 17th in the NFL in Red Zone TD %. Their ranking in RZ TD% was similar among playoff teams (7th out of 12).

Interestingly, though, they were 2nd (behind New England) in both RZ opportunities/game and RZ TDs/game.

So, to start, I'd say that the Rams are not exactly bad in the RZ, but there is definitely room for improvement.

I don't have a single answer for why the Rams are not better in the RZ.

It could be McVay's RZ playcalling, which has, at times, been a bit vanilla.
It could be Goff who, at times, seems to have locked on a receiver and rushed throws in the RZ.
It could be the lack of a big receiver who can win jump balls (put out an APB on the TEs).

I think its fair to say that all of these factors, and probably a few others, have contributed.

Definitely worth watching this, but I'm hopeful that it will improve over time.

I agree with your analysis...and I think the big-receiver idea is paramount. And, I agree, the TEs would and should (and will, god hoping) be part of the solution. We are stacked at TE.

It’s been one game.

We ain’t seen nuttin’ yet.