[Elvis]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... erspective

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It made news this week when word surfaced that St. Louis and San Diego -- the cities, not their teams -- would not be given an audience at next month's owners meetings in New York.

That meeting has long been treated as a major milepost in the path back to Los Angeles. And it is one, in a way. But not in the way that involving those municipalities -- trying to keep their football franchises -- need to be involved.

As far as planning for L.A. is concerned, this particular summit simply isn't the venue for discussion with the existing markets, with the feeling being that a committee setting -- rather than a full league meeting -- is more conducive to the necessary give-and-take.

So what could be negotiated in New York?

For one, a relocation fee could be agreed to, as well as how it would be paid out. For another, we could get the new relocation window finalized: It is expected to be moved up from where it is currently, running from Jan. 1 to Feb. 15. And finally, there's a chance owners could settle on a temporary 2016 site for whoever lands in Southern California -- with the Coliseum being the only obvious option now, though some believe the Rose Bowl could be lured back in.

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And with that on the table, there really wasn't a huge need to take another look at where the existing markets are. "I think they just decided those projects aren't going to be complete and they want them to be actionable before bringing them before the owners again," one involved source told me. "They also wanted more dialogue, and the presentations wouldn't help."

As for where things stand now, the Raiders/Chargers project in Carson is still in the design phase, while the Rams project in Inglewood is expected to have completed construction drawings in about six weeks, which would be the final step before putting a shovel in the ground.

One thing seems to be certain here: The owners aren't going to leave the Chargers stranded in Qualcomm Stadium (as presently constituted) at the end of all of this.

Dean Spanos easily has the most political capital of the three owners involved, and has garnered the most sympathy based on his own situation. He's made it clear the status quo is no longer acceptable. So when the dust settles and we know what the plan is for Los Angeles, it's a very good bet that the Chargers will either be one of the teams there or they'll have a stadium solution in San Diego.

So that means, if the league moves forward with the Rams' project in Inglewood, and if the building ultimately ends up housing two NFL teams (as many have speculated), the likelihood now is that that second team would be the Chargers, not the Raiders.

Follow Albert Breer on Twitter @AlbertBreer.

[BuiltRamTough]

Seems like the league wants Inglewood and is pushing for Stan to get a deal done with Spanos and or Rams first and if the Chargers can't get a deal done next year in SD then they will join the Rams in 2017. Just my read.

Everyone now is saying what Fred Roggin has been saying forever.

[Hacksaw]

It makes the most sense doesn't it. If it quacks like a duck........

[Stranger]

This sounds pretty cool to me.... Chargers & Rams in the new stadium. This will be a huge boost for the NFL to have 2-teams and a beautiful new Stadium/NFL Media Complex in one of the largest media centers of the world.

I betcha both teams go thru a major uniform change the year they play at the new stadium.

By the way, for some reason I didn't realize that this is the same Fred Roggin who I used watch in the 80's when I was still in LA. The guy must have great genes, or an awesome plastic surgeon, cause he doesn't look like he's aged.

[moklerman]

I still don't think the Chargers move.

[TSFH Fan]

I like that this is an NFL Media Reporter posting on NFL.com.
By silence, Breer seems to be suggesting that the owners don't give a crap about leaving the Raiders out in the cold.
Sucks for them.


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If it quacks like a duck........

Then it's leverage!!! Right?? No . . .?

[BuiltRamTough]

[bluecoconuts]

https://twitter.com/thebeast980/status/644951288346619904

Seems like a poor move... Seem like that's a move that could lose favor with those in the league, especially if Kroenke is willing to play ball and he isn't. I think the Raiders hurt Carson more than help, and if it's only one team that goes the Rams are the best choice.

[TSFH Fan]

Dean Spanos does not want to partner with Stan Kroenke. Can't really blame him. I've heard that Spanos is a Clippers fan and that he doesn't think much of the Clippers' second class treatment in Staples.

Can you imagine what a Kroenke - Spanos partnership would be like? That's not Lakers-Clippers, it'd be like the LA Dodgers partnering with the Greensboro Grasshoppers or something.

But really, Fake Carson Stadium is a fake and Deano's goal is to gut SD to get the best deal he can, so there's no reason to drag Stan into the charade.

[bubbaramfan]

Nothing has changed for Spanos and the Chargers. He's been trying to get someone to build him a stadium in downtown SD for 14 years. He does'n have the money to do it himself. So where's he going to get the money to build a stadium in LA? or the 500 mil for the relocation fee? So much BS.