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Sounds like they are gonna franchise Truman and go after Garcon in FA.

Probably go after OL in FA as well.

Britt is a goner, and they may let TJ go at Safety.

My guess is that they draft a DB, probably a CB, in the 2nd round, their first pick. Reportedly its a strong DB draft.

One problem I had with Fisher's drafts is that he forced the approach to his wants and ignored the strengths of the drafts. e.g. He ignored WRs when the draft were strong in WR, and drafted WRs when the drafts were weak in WRs.

Fisher's approach to the draft reflected his generally obtuse approach to everything he did. That may be why Snead is getting another chance.

Totally agree Fisher's drafts were mind boggling in ignoring the strengths of the player pool. I got so tired of drafting high upside physical freaks instead of quality players. I did a mock recently that had this as our draft

2)OLB TJ Watt OLB
3) CB Ahkello Witherspoon CB
4a) John Toch C
4b) Roderick Johnson OT
5) Eddie Jackson FS (he's one I've seen anywhere from the second to the sixth round. If he's gone John Johnson from BC works too)
6a) Mack Hollins WR
7a) TJ Logan RB
7b) Ezra Robinson CB

Had us signing Garcon, Leary, Neshke (to start at LT until Johnson is ready), Brandon Carr and Jerraud Powers to start at CB with Witherspoon and Brian Schwenke as veteran depth behind Toth.

Not saying that's great but it makes sense and addresses our needs and drafts some of this drafts strength which is CB/S.

OldSchool wrote:Totally agree Fisher's drafts were mind boggling in ignoring the strengths of the player pool. I got so tired of drafting high upside physical freaks instead of quality players. I did a mock recently that had this as our draft

2)OLB TJ Watt OLB
3) CB Ahkello Witherspoon CB
4a) John Toch C
4b) Roderick Johnson OT
5) Eddie Jackson FS (he's one I've seen anywhere from the second to the sixth round. If he's gone John Johnson from BC works too)
6a) Mack Hollins WR
7a) TJ Logan RB
7b) Ezra Robinson CB

Had us signing Garcon, Leary, Neshke (to start at LT until Johnson is ready), Brandon Carr and Jerraud Powers to start at CB with Witherspoon and Brian Schwenke as veteran depth behind Toth.

With Tim Barnes hopefully being a cap cut,Center has to be a priority over guard.
A bad center will make Guards look worse than they actually are.
Is there a blue chip center to be had in the draft or free agency? Nick Mangold ?
So tired of having highways paved right through our "A" gaps or seeing Barnes getting blown 3 yds into the backfield.
Thoughts OldSchool ?

Zero wrote:With Tim Barnes hopefully being a cap cut,Center has to be a priority over guard.
A bad center will make Guards look worse than they actually are.
Is there a blue chip center to be had in the draft or free agency? Nick Mangold ?
So tired of having highways paved right through our "A" gaps or seeing Barnes getting blown 3 yds into the backfield.
Thoughts OldSchool ?

Most of the free agent Centers have assorted issues. Tretter has injury history and hasn't played center regularly but has the ability.

Wizneiwski has been on 3 teams in 3 years though he's been available all 16 each year only started 6 games last year. For a few years was one of the better Centers.

Nick Mangold is 33 with recent injury issues and might not be cheap. For a while was one of the best.

John Sullivan is 31, lost his job 2 years ago in a bad Minnesotta line. Signed with Washington and started only 1 game being active for 13. He knows McVay though so that may be a plus. He's had some good years.

AQ Shipley started all 16 games last year for the first time in his 5 year career but wasn't very good after having some decent hype coming into his draft he fell to the 7th round. Arizona seems to have drafted his successor in the 4th round last year. Doesn't have a lot of starts and is mediocre on tape.

Brian Schwenke is a 4 year pro that's only been active for 16 games once that was last year and he only started 5. Another recently highly touted draft pick that just didn't pan out.

Matt Paradis is an RFA from the Bronco's might be the best of the bunch but with the RFA and is liked in Denver. Two year starter was one of the few bright spots on a bad line.

There are others but we seem to have 2 classes of free agent Centers. Veterans with injury history and might not be cheap. And under achieving 2-4 year pros.

Realistic draft picks though are a good thing. Toth as I mentioned could step in day 1 with Kromer and start. Pocic, Elflein and Orlosky are all likely 2nd rounders. Fuller of Baylor and Toth are in the 3-5 range. One guy I really like is Chase Roullier from Wyoming likely a 6th or 7th rounder.

Sorry enough detracting from the original subject but Centers is one thing I've looked at a lot in this draft.

OldSchool wrote:Most of the free agent Centers have assorted issues. Tretter has injury history and hasn't played center regularly but has the ability.

Wizneiwski has been on 3 teams in 3 years though he's been available all 16 each year only started 6 games last year. For a few years was one of the better Centers.

Nick Mangold is 33 with recent injury issues and might not be cheap. For a while was one of the best.

John Sullivan is 31, lost his job 2 years ago in a bad Minnesotta line. Signed with Washington and started only 1 game being active for 13. He knows McVay though so that may be a plus. He's had some good years.

AQ Shipley started all 16 games last year for the first time in his 5 year career but wasn't very good after having some decent hype coming into his draft he fell to the 7th round. Arizona seems to have drafted his successor in the 4th round last year. Doesn't have a lot of starts and is mediocre on tape.

Brian Schwenke is a 4 year pro that's only been active for 16 games once that was last year and he only started 5. Another recently highly touted draft pick that just didn't pan out.

Matt Paradis is an RFA from the Bronco's might be the best of the bunch but with the RFA and is liked in Denver. Two year starter was one of the few bright spots on a bad line.

There are others but we seem to have 2 classes of free agent Centers. Veterans with injury history and might not be cheap. And under achieving 2-4 year pros.

Realistic draft picks though are a good thing. Toth as I mentioned could step in day 1 with Kromer and start. Pocic, Elflein and Orlosky are all likely 2nd rounders. Fuller of Baylor and Toth are in the 3-5 range. One guy I really like is Chase Roullier from Wyoming likely a 6th or 7th rounder.

Sorry enough detracting from the original subject but Centers is one thing I've looked at a lot in this draft.

Not detracting at all - thank you for the detailed information. Center is a top and important issue for our Rams right now. Appreciate the post.

Face it, we're not gonna have blue chip players at center or all along the line. Question is, how many of the available guys are upgrades over what we have. If any is a wash or less, there's no point in picking them up except maybe depth.

OldSchool wrote:
Realistic draft picks though are a good thing. Toth as I mentioned could step in day 1 with Kromer and start.

Sorry enough detracting from the original subject but Centers is one thing I've looked at a lot in this draft.

Thanks for the reply Bro.I haven't done much research on the position and this helped
a ton.We have to improve the position.Getting rid of Barnes is step 1.

I would keep Barnes for depth. He is a serviceable backup with a hard-working attitude.

OldSchool wrote:Totally agree Fisher's drafts were mind boggling in ignoring the strengths of the player pool. I got so tired of drafting high upside physical freaks instead of quality players. I did a mock recently that had this as our draft

2)OLB TJ Watt OLB
3) CB Ahkello Witherspoon CB
4a) John Toch C
4b) Roderick Johnson OT
5) Eddie Jackson FS (he's one I've seen anywhere from the second to the sixth round. If he's gone John Johnson from BC works too)
6a) Mack Hollins WR
7a) TJ Logan RB
7b) Ezra Robinson CB

Had us signing Garcon, Leary, Neshke (to start at LT until Johnson is ready), Brandon Carr and Jerraud Powers to start at CB with Witherspoon and Brian Schwenke as veteran depth behind Toth.

Not saying that's great but it makes sense and addresses our needs and drafts some of this drafts strength which is CB/S.

Pretty good draft, I wouldnt add another tackle, I would hope we can add depth thru FA.
I also wouldnt draft a WR in the 6th round, we have enough of those guys. IF we go receiver it needs to be early, if not just sign Garcon and move on.

Ryan Croy ,started at center for Buffalo in '16 after Eric Woods, their starting center went down.
Buffalo led the NFL in rusing ypc. Ryan is entering the last year of his rookie contract. He also backed up Richie Incognito at og, so he was behind some really stout and good players in Buffalo. I doubt they would just cut him, but I'd bet we could throw a later round pick for him. They have a LOT of guys to re-sign this year. I think he was a 4th rounder out of Wisconsin (played with Big Rob). He is still young but has started for 1/2 of a season, so there is tape on him.