by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Feel the Hate POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR Stan Kroenke is the worst owner in St. Louis sports historyBy Spencer EngelAugust 28, 2015 8:55 am CDTHe’s a morally bankrupt, money-hungry, cowardly recluse, but St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke has earned one distinction: The worst owner in St. Louis sports history.Looking back at that first sentence, I suppose it looks like I was setting it up to say something somewhat nice, or at least not vicious, about Kroenke. But for a St. Louisan like myself to say anything remotely positive about Kroenke at this point would be anathema to all we stand for.Kroenke has no redeemable qualities whatsoever.In April 2010, when a majority stake of the Rams was up for sale, he wrestled the team away from Illinois-based businessman Shahid Khan, who without question would’ve done everything in his power to keep the team in St. Louis.Some St. Louisans saw the writing on the wall back then and were concerned that the Rams’ future in St. Louis was instantly thrown in flux when Kroenke became the principal owner instead of Khan. So Kroenke made a rare media appearance and claimed that he would do everything that he could to keep the Rams in St. Louis.Since Kroenke decided to match Khan’s bid, Kroenke’s motives have come under scrutiny. For starters, Kroenke didn’t express a commitment to St. Louis in the statement he issued to announce his decision to match. Then came a report that Kroenke was a member of an NFL committee that supervises potential new-stadium projects in Los Angeles, which is seeking an NFL franchise. Then came the Sports Business Journal report, which caused more commotion in St. Louis.Kroenke is bothered by the perception that he’d work against St. Louis, or that he’d scheme to move the Rams back to Los Angeles. He pointed to a life spent largely inside Missouri borders, and his base in Columbia, Mo.“I’m born and raised in Missouri,” Kroenke said. “I’ve been a Missourian for 60 years. People in our state know me. People know I can be trusted. People know I am an honorable guy.”No, Stan, people do not know you are an honorable guy. You are a greedy billionaire asshole with no moral compass. There’s a reason Joe Buck, who usually keeps his opinions somewhat tempered now that he’s one of the prominent voices of the NFL, ripped you a new one earlier this week.As I wrote last year, Stan Kroenke doesn’t give a damn about St. Louis, and he never did. Ever since that Post-Dispatch piece from April 2010, Kroenke has done absolutely nothing to back up his statements. He has made zero effort to keep the Rams here, and he has eyeballed Los Angeles probably this entire time – or at least he has for the past three years or so.A couple weeks ago, when presenting his L.A. stadium plan to the NFL, Kroenke went so far as to say St. Louis was not a viable location for the Rams. The comment is an incredible insult to a city that, 22 years ago, gave the then-L.A. Rams a remarkably good deal to move to St. Louis. Kroenke, who was a part-owner back then, didn’t seem to have any qualms with moving the team then. All St. Louis did was sell out every single game between 1995 and 2006. Only when the franchise started consistently losing 70 percent of its games and fighting with one another in the front office did the attendance dip, and even then, this city has supported the moribund Rams better than most other NFL cities would have, including L.A.The city of St. Louis has had some appalling sports owners over the years – Bill Bidwill of the St. Louis football Cardinals, Bill Laurie of the St. Louis Blues, the last few years of the Anheuser Busch era for the Cardinals in the 1990s – but none of those guys were as malicious as Kroenke.Despite what he said five years ago, I firmly believe Kroenke has had his eyes set on L.A. from the moment he outbid Khan. He gave that interview to buy himself a little good will and to placate the media. Kroenke has not given a meaningful interview to the St. Louis media since then, and he has not even attempted to keep the Rams in St. Louis. I mean the guy had the nerve to show up to the Rams’ practice in Oxnard, Calif. earlier last week after not making an appearance during any of the numerous practices in St. Louis.The city of St. Louis deserves a lot better than Stan Kroenke, who will join the likes of Art Modell and Robert Irsay as the most villainous and hated owners in NFL history. Hope L.A. is worth that legacy, Stan.Read more at http://cover32.com/rams/2015/08/28/stan ... mFKHCR1.99 RFU Season Ticket Holder by SoCalRam78 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Feel the Hate POST #2 Biases aside, this guy is 1000 times better than whatever the hell GF was, a 5 x divorcee who inherited the Rams, ruined them under a pile of frugality and bullshit, and then bolted southern California at the first opportunity effectively ruining the NFL in the south land for 20 years.This guy got one thing right, ESK wanted LA from the get go. This isn't a 1-2 year project. He knew it in 2010 with the lease out clause. LA was always on his radar. by den-the-coach 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 870 Joined: May 22 2015 Fifty-four Forty or Fight Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #3 He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels. by Hacksaw 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Feel the Hate POST #4 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.That is right den. Every coin has too sides. It appears those in the Lou are starting to realize that is precisely where there chances are. In the Lou...Definitions of LouA woman who has no limit to her sexual appetite. She is ready for sex 24/7, always enjoys it, has many, many orgasms with no effort at all and is very attentive to the pleasure of the man as well..A Lou is a type of person who will do anything for some ass. This person can be a boy or girl, but is always a pig/whore. In the UK Loo means a toilet... LOLhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #5 Stan Kroenke is the worst owner in St. Louis sports historywasheduplegend 5 points 2 hours ago:But he's still not the worst owner in Rams history. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #6 Oh, and since he brought up Joe Buck: TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by 69superbowl 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 477 Joined: Aug 19 2015 San Jose Starter Re: Feel the Hate POST #7 Yikes, this dude is way over the top. I've been critical of E. Stash from the start for his seeming aloofness, but sheesh this article is too much, and certainly too soon. My favorite owner of all time, Carroll Rosenbloom, was likely a hall of fame SOB in his day, but loved football. Not so sure with E. Stash. Worst ever? Nah, just a ruthless businessman playing for very high stakes. He and Jerruh Jones are two peas in a pod in many respects - except I know Jerruh loves football. Mr. Engel should get a nice soft pillow for his hurt butt. by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SoCalRam78 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Feel the Hate POST #2 Biases aside, this guy is 1000 times better than whatever the hell GF was, a 5 x divorcee who inherited the Rams, ruined them under a pile of frugality and bullshit, and then bolted southern California at the first opportunity effectively ruining the NFL in the south land for 20 years.This guy got one thing right, ESK wanted LA from the get go. This isn't a 1-2 year project. He knew it in 2010 with the lease out clause. LA was always on his radar. by den-the-coach 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 870 Joined: May 22 2015 Fifty-four Forty or Fight Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #3 He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels. by Hacksaw 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Feel the Hate POST #4 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.That is right den. Every coin has too sides. It appears those in the Lou are starting to realize that is precisely where there chances are. In the Lou...Definitions of LouA woman who has no limit to her sexual appetite. She is ready for sex 24/7, always enjoys it, has many, many orgasms with no effort at all and is very attentive to the pleasure of the man as well..A Lou is a type of person who will do anything for some ass. This person can be a boy or girl, but is always a pig/whore. In the UK Loo means a toilet... LOLhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #5 Stan Kroenke is the worst owner in St. Louis sports historywasheduplegend 5 points 2 hours ago:But he's still not the worst owner in Rams history. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #6 Oh, and since he brought up Joe Buck: TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by 69superbowl 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 477 Joined: Aug 19 2015 San Jose Starter Re: Feel the Hate POST #7 Yikes, this dude is way over the top. I've been critical of E. Stash from the start for his seeming aloofness, but sheesh this article is too much, and certainly too soon. My favorite owner of all time, Carroll Rosenbloom, was likely a hall of fame SOB in his day, but loved football. Not so sure with E. Stash. Worst ever? Nah, just a ruthless businessman playing for very high stakes. He and Jerruh Jones are two peas in a pod in many respects - except I know Jerruh loves football. Mr. Engel should get a nice soft pillow for his hurt butt. by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by den-the-coach 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 870 Joined: May 22 2015 Fifty-four Forty or Fight Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #3 He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels. by Hacksaw 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Feel the Hate POST #4 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.That is right den. Every coin has too sides. It appears those in the Lou are starting to realize that is precisely where there chances are. In the Lou...Definitions of LouA woman who has no limit to her sexual appetite. She is ready for sex 24/7, always enjoys it, has many, many orgasms with no effort at all and is very attentive to the pleasure of the man as well..A Lou is a type of person who will do anything for some ass. This person can be a boy or girl, but is always a pig/whore. In the UK Loo means a toilet... LOLhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #5 Stan Kroenke is the worst owner in St. Louis sports historywasheduplegend 5 points 2 hours ago:But he's still not the worst owner in Rams history. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #6 Oh, and since he brought up Joe Buck: TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by 69superbowl 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 477 Joined: Aug 19 2015 San Jose Starter Re: Feel the Hate POST #7 Yikes, this dude is way over the top. I've been critical of E. Stash from the start for his seeming aloofness, but sheesh this article is too much, and certainly too soon. My favorite owner of all time, Carroll Rosenbloom, was likely a hall of fame SOB in his day, but loved football. Not so sure with E. Stash. Worst ever? Nah, just a ruthless businessman playing for very high stakes. He and Jerruh Jones are two peas in a pod in many respects - except I know Jerruh loves football. Mr. Engel should get a nice soft pillow for his hurt butt. by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Feel the Hate POST #4 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.That is right den. Every coin has too sides. It appears those in the Lou are starting to realize that is precisely where there chances are. In the Lou...Definitions of LouA woman who has no limit to her sexual appetite. She is ready for sex 24/7, always enjoys it, has many, many orgasms with no effort at all and is very attentive to the pleasure of the man as well..A Lou is a type of person who will do anything for some ass. This person can be a boy or girl, but is always a pig/whore. In the UK Loo means a toilet... LOLhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #5 Stan Kroenke is the worst owner in St. Louis sports historywasheduplegend 5 points 2 hours ago:But he's still not the worst owner in Rams history. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #6 Oh, and since he brought up Joe Buck: TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by 69superbowl 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 477 Joined: Aug 19 2015 San Jose Starter Re: Feel the Hate POST #7 Yikes, this dude is way over the top. I've been critical of E. Stash from the start for his seeming aloofness, but sheesh this article is too much, and certainly too soon. My favorite owner of all time, Carroll Rosenbloom, was likely a hall of fame SOB in his day, but loved football. Not so sure with E. Stash. Worst ever? Nah, just a ruthless businessman playing for very high stakes. He and Jerruh Jones are two peas in a pod in many respects - except I know Jerruh loves football. Mr. Engel should get a nice soft pillow for his hurt butt. by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #5 Stan Kroenke is the worst owner in St. Louis sports historywasheduplegend 5 points 2 hours ago:But he's still not the worst owner in Rams history. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #6 Oh, and since he brought up Joe Buck: TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by 69superbowl 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 477 Joined: Aug 19 2015 San Jose Starter Re: Feel the Hate POST #7 Yikes, this dude is way over the top. I've been critical of E. Stash from the start for his seeming aloofness, but sheesh this article is too much, and certainly too soon. My favorite owner of all time, Carroll Rosenbloom, was likely a hall of fame SOB in his day, but loved football. Not so sure with E. Stash. Worst ever? Nah, just a ruthless businessman playing for very high stakes. He and Jerruh Jones are two peas in a pod in many respects - except I know Jerruh loves football. Mr. Engel should get a nice soft pillow for his hurt butt. by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025
by TSFH Fan 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Feel the Hate POST #6 Oh, and since he brought up Joe Buck: TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by 69superbowl 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 477 Joined: Aug 19 2015 San Jose Starter Re: Feel the Hate POST #7 Yikes, this dude is way over the top. I've been critical of E. Stash from the start for his seeming aloofness, but sheesh this article is too much, and certainly too soon. My favorite owner of all time, Carroll Rosenbloom, was likely a hall of fame SOB in his day, but loved football. Not so sure with E. Stash. Worst ever? Nah, just a ruthless businessman playing for very high stakes. He and Jerruh Jones are two peas in a pod in many respects - except I know Jerruh loves football. Mr. Engel should get a nice soft pillow for his hurt butt. by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025
by 69superbowl 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 477 Joined: Aug 19 2015 San Jose Starter Re: Feel the Hate POST #7 Yikes, this dude is way over the top. I've been critical of E. Stash from the start for his seeming aloofness, but sheesh this article is too much, and certainly too soon. My favorite owner of all time, Carroll Rosenbloom, was likely a hall of fame SOB in his day, but loved football. Not so sure with E. Stash. Worst ever? Nah, just a ruthless businessman playing for very high stakes. He and Jerruh Jones are two peas in a pod in many respects - except I know Jerruh loves football. Mr. Engel should get a nice soft pillow for his hurt butt. by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025
by moklerman 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Feel the Hate POST #8 It makes me wonder. I mean, I've long been told how bad of an owner Bill Bidwill was and as many Cardinals fans still seem to feel that way I guess it's true. But, I look at what he's done for the Cardinals since they were in Arizona and I don't see a bad owner at all. Maybe his son has really taken a different approach but what I can't help but wonder is if Bidwill was treated in a similar manner to how Kroenke is apparently being treated, it doesn't really speak well about how NFL owners are treated by St. Louis.The stories I've heard about Bidwill are how cheap and greedy he was but how unreasonable were is requests/demands for a new venue back then? I know the attendance had plummeted in St. Louis back in the '80's but I've always had the impression that the impasse between St. Louis and Bidwill were all on Bidwill. Maybe they weren't though?It certainly won't look good on St. Louis if they lose the Rams in much the same way they lost the Cardinals. by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025
by Elvis 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Feel the Hate POST #9 TOPIC AUTHOR Hell hath no fury.Every city hates the owner that moved their team away. That's a given... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 24 posts Jul 02 2025
by Stranger 9 years 10 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Feel the Hate POST #10 den-the-coach wrote:He'll go down as one of the best owners in Los Angeles Ram history and after the Rams win several Super Bowls will be in the Hall of Fame as the man that brought back football to the City of Angels.Yes.And I agree with the previous poster, GF was probably the worst Stl owner ever. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business