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From the PD (i know)...

http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/vie ... &t=1127748

I just had a conversation with Kevin Demoff for the last 40 minutes or so in the cafe at my work. I honestly feel like I learned more in those 40 minutes than I have all year from the media.

Key points (all according to Demoff of course, but he appeared to be very genuine):

- Kroenke NEVER said St. Louis no longer works for the Rams. Demoff personally called Dave Peacock to tell him that never happened.

- The Rams are not keen on sharing the stadium with an MLS team. Not sure region can support 4 teams, and causes concerns about who gets paid what for non game day events.

- St. Louis still has a chance. Nothing is definite. The Rams will not remove L.A. from the equation until they know the final deal from St. Louis. He flat out said "doing so would remove all leverage in case something falls through here."

- He and Peacock talk all the time, about "multiple options and scenarios." Said he wishes Peacock had been involved three years ago, and that he's the best person he's ever worked with in St. Louis.

- This is not just a financial decision. If it was, L.A. would win out hands down all day long. There is a civic aspect to this. But there is concern about the long term financial stability of the St. Louis region.

- Attendance is a non-issue. The team and league both understand that the poor product and lease issue is causing the lowered attendance. The team has never once used attendance as a reason to the league that they might move.

- Everything will be decided by December.

Feel free to ask me any questions. I'll post more if I remember.

Oh, and he said Stan will not speak and does not speak because people that want to believe the Rams will stay will believe him if he says they will and those that don't, won't. He said it's pointless.

If no one shows up for the games because it's understandable, so out reach from Kroenke to the community for the sake of improving attendance isn't necessarily important. What is important is resolving the stadium issue and then moving on from there.

He seems to mix in things that have been said by a few reporters but my issue is that Demoff has not been that open with anyone reporter on the record so why would he do it it with Hokakey. Just look at his informal q&a at the last owners meeting. He said nothing of substance.

That is total BS.

Perhaps it was because it was informal. Was Hokahey just hanging out a stumbled into KD or was this a planned Q&A which Demoff knew would be redistributed?

Sounds convincing.

Sounds like he stumbled into him at a cafe, at least that's what Hokahey is saying.

Some of us know Hokahey from RRF and though he's a bit of a piece of work, i don't know that he's ever straight out made anything up. But he's wrong all the time and sees everything in the best possible light for St. Louis' chances.

And what's Demoff saying? It's not over yet. What else is he going to say at the beginning of the season?

And this his Hokahey's best spin, someone who desperately wants the Rams to say, who's in the same camp as Shane Gray...

Yes, of course, some random PD poster got more info from KD then anyone in the past year.

Well none the less it gives me pause. I was about to post today that I thought it might be wiser to tone it down a bit as anything could still happen and it probably will. All signs point to LA and many outside of StL see it that way as well. The "waiting to see the final plan" part is a little bit concerning, however, ESK must have a pretty good idea of what is happening if the Rams meet with Peacock all the time as Hokahey reported. You'd think that if he had any intention of staying he would have already sussed it out and made a decision,, or has his own grand plan for a stadium which we would have heard of by now.
According to Hok, ESK never said StL doesn't work for the Rams. Who was it that reported he did say that?

A little more from Hokahey:

One on One may be a little misleading. He came to my work for a speech on team work and outreach in the community.

After words, I pulled him aside with a few co-workers. I asked most of the questions. It was about 40 minutes of talk time.

For anyone that doesn't know me, I am co-founder of Keep the Rams in St. Louis (although I've distanced myself from the group the last few months).

I am the person you may have seen in multiple news interviews with Andy Banker on Fox 2 and Casey Nolan on Channel 5.

And from Nick Beef:

He came to our company today as a guest speaker to talk about business within a community and civic pride, etc.

I posted yesterday that he was coming, and asked for suggestions on questions, although I ended up not talking to him myself.

The OP IM'd me yesterday after I posted that Demoff was coming, as he figured that we worked at the same company -- although we still haven't met and don't know identities.

I saw a few people walking up to Demoff as the event ended. I had no idea he stuck around that long and talked with people. I certainly would have stayed.

I can say this 100%. Kevin Demoff is an awesome dude. Just a super great guy, and not once did he even pretend to hide behind anything. They brought up the uncertainty about the Rams this season, first thing when he got on stage.

I don't usually recommend going to the PD but that 18 page thread is probably worth a read.

Kevin did a public appearance, got asked a lot of questions by "Save the Rams" people who heard he would be there and Kevin gave a lot of sympathetic but non-committal answers.

Really, pretty much exactly how you'd expect him to handle the situation...

Hacksaw wrote:Well none the less it gives me pause. I was about to post today that I thought it might be wiser to tone it down a bit as anything could still happen and it probably will. All signs point to LA and many outside of StL see it that way as well. The "waiting to see the final plan" part is a little bit concerning, however, ESK must have a pretty good idea of what is happening if the Rams meet with Peacock all the time as Hokahey reported. You'd think that if he had any intention of staying he would have already sussed it out and made a decision,, or has his own grand plan for a stadium which we would have heard of by now.
According to Hok, ESK never said StL doesn't work for the Rams. Who was it that reported he did say that?

Go read my post in the thread on the legislature, this plan doesn't cut it for ESK. It behooves him to have team officials meet with stadium supporters and talk to Peacock. No one is going to say it's over until it is. That has been his MO from the beginning. That doesn't mean his mind already isn't made up. Hell, no one with the Rams has publicly said they want to move to LA. You think that's by accident? The other thing, this guy is full of crap. 40 minute meeting with KD? SK keeps things close to the vest so his employee KD isn't going to go blabber to some random person for 40 mins. C'mon, you believe that?