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The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by Elvis
Heard some of Fisher's exchange with Steve Mason on 710 and he brought up the QB situations as an excuse.

So let's refresh:

Fisher took the Rams job, in part, because he believed in Sam Bradford as a QB. Yes there were the injuries but neither Sam Bradford nor the Rams offense played at a high level under Jeff Fisher.

Then Fisher traded for Nick Foles and was enamored enough to sign him to a contract extension. Nick Foles and the Rams' offense absolutely failed to produce under Jeff Fisher.

Fisher also traded for Case Keenum and told us the Rams were a playoff team with Keenum at QB. Even with Jared Goff on the roster Fisher chose to go with Case. Once again the offense and QB position failed to produce under Jeff Fisher.

What exactly is the excuse again?

The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by Neil039
Listening to Fisher discuss his football decisions is similar to talking to a carnie at the ring toss both. You know it's a large pile a crapola but it's the only booth with the prize you want.

The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by moklerman
Elvis wrote:Heard some of Fisher's exchange with Steve Mason on 710 and he brought up the QB situations as an excuse.

So let's refresh:

Fisher took the Rams job, in part, because he believed in Sam Bradford as a QB. Yes there were the injuries but neither Sam Bradford nor the Rams offense played at a high level under Jeff Fisher.

Then Fisher traded for Nick Foles and was enamored enough to sign him to a contract extension. Nick Foles and the Rams' offense absolutely failed to produce under Jeff Fisher.

Fisher also traded for Case Keenum and told us the Rams were a playoff team with Keenum at QB. Even with Jared Goff on the roster Fisher chose to go with Case. Once again the offense and QB position failed to produce under Jeff Fisher.

What exactly is the excuse again?
I don't disagree in principle, but Bradford and Foles both got some production in the offense. Good enough to be acceptable. So, I wouldn't really criticize for those particular reasons.

With Bradford, they were wrong to not have a viable backup/future option in place. They were wrong in how they went about protecting him. They tried, but ultimately the pieces put in place were wrong. Now, it seems they might have given up too early in him in terms of health.

With Foles, he played well at times and was an important part of a couple of early season wins. So, he wasn't totally worthless but the contract extension can't be excused. Then, with him under the new contract they give up on him after a few bad games? He seems okay now in Kansas City so why couldn't the Rams get decent/good production out of him?

I agree that there were many QB mistakes made by this regime though.

The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by RamsFanSince82
Here's the link to the interview. Mason asked tough questions, but as usual, Fisher just gave tired, lame excuses.




Re: The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by BuiltRamTough
It's a must listen. Great questions.

I want a change but he's going to be coaching this team next year.

The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by aeneas1
Elvis wrote:Heard some of Fisher's exchange with Steve Mason on 710 and he brought up the QB situations as an excuse.

So let's refresh:

Fisher took the Rams job, in part, because he believed in Sam Bradford as a QB. Yes there were the injuries but neither Sam Bradford nor the Rams offense played at a high level under Jeff Fisher.

Then Fisher traded for Nick Foles and was enamored enough to sign him to a contract extension. Nick Foles and the Rams' offense absolutely failed to produce under Jeff Fisher.

Fisher also traded for Case Keenum and told us the Rams were a playoff team with Keenum at QB. Even with Jared Goff on the roster Fisher chose to go with Case. Once again the offense and QB position failed to produce under Jeff Fisher.

What exactly is the excuse again?

the average at best talent the rams have had under center since fish has been hc is certainly a contributing factor, as is the number of qbs that have started games, but as you point out those were fish's calls...

the absolute horror that has been the rams offensive point production under each qb since 2012:

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The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by snackdaddy
aeneas1 wrote:the average at best talent the rams have had under center since fish has been hc is certainly a contributing factor, as is the number of qbs that have started games, but as you point out those were fish's calls...

the absolute horror that has been the rams offensive point production under each qb since 2012:


7 quarterbacks in less than 5 seasons in bad offenses, but there was one common denominator with all of that. Jeff Fisher.

The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by Ramsnation_SD
Neil039 wrote:Listening to Fisher discuss his football decisions is similar to talking to a carnie at the ring toss both. You know it's a large pile a crapola but it the only booth with the prize you want.


This should be the new quote of the moment.

The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by aeneas1
snackdaddy wrote:7 quarterbacks in less than 5 seasons in bad offenses, but there was one common fuck up with all of that. Jeff Fisher.

fixed.

The Quarterback Excuse

PostPosted:8 years 7 months ago
by PARAM
Bradford? Bradford played 16 games Fisher's first year here. They went 7-8-1. That unfortunatly was the high point of QB play until drafting Goff. The receivers? Amendola and little else. The running game? 29 year old Steven Jackson in his 9th year. In Bradford's 2nd season, just 6 and a half games played (3-4 with Bradford, more 7-9 bullshit). Austin, Givens and Cook with Zac Stacy at RB. Where's he at now? In Bradford's third season, no season. Shaun Hill and Austin Davis got us 6-10 bullshit. The trade for Foles? It had to be done. The options were, 1) stay with Bradford or, 2) try and unload him on somebody else. He was in the last year of his deal and played 7 games in 2 seasons. It was a lose-lose scenario unless they won the Superbowl, which wasn't going to happen. If he plays well, he's a free agent and they have to pay him a few years and a lot of money. Of course there's always the franchise tag but that's a gamble in itself too. If he was injured again, no trade value and no contract. Foles was the safer gamble (we all know Bradford was a gamble no matter what and despite hindsight) but Foles imploded and we had more 7-9 bullshit. Which brings us to Goff and 2016. We'll be lucky to get to 7-9. Failure to find legit backups? They found a decent backup in Keenum. How it plays out is going to be interesting to watch. Goff with a new HC next year? Or Fisher with Goff for 16 games? Either way, I like the way the kid plays and he should only get better. That's what I'm hanging my hat on.