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L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by 47 Gap
This from the Daily News. My opinion is below.

LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Protective League today demanded that Stan Kroenke, the billionaire owner of the Rams, pay the full cost for necessary police services to ensure public safety at the team’s home games as long as it plays at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

“The estimated cost to provide police protection at Ram games is approximately $2 million a year,” LAPPL spokesman Dustin DeRollo said.

“Thus far the Rams have not agreed to pay their fair share of policing costs and this will drain police coverage in other areas of our city,” DeRollo said. “The LAPPL is also urging Mayor Eric Garcetti to reject any requests for sweetheart deals funded by the taxpayers for the NFL team.”

The temporary location of the Rams in Los Angeles has created a need for more than 200 police officers to ensure adequate safety at every home game at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, DeRollo said. A stadium scheduled to open in 2019 is being built for the Rams in Inglewood.

“This comes at a time when the LAPD has critically low staffing levels and the city of Los Angeles has experienced a dramatic increase in violent crime and property crime over the past two years,” DeRollo said.

The Rams issued a statement saying the team is “working with the LAPD to find solutions that work for everyone -- in fact, we have a few meetings already scheduled with LAPD and USC leadership in the coming weeks.”

“The safety of fans attending our games is a priority and we are appreciative of the great team at LAPD and other agencies that will be part of our game-day security operation for helping ensure a safe environment for our guests.”

The LAPPL union represents the more than 9,900 sworn members of the Los Angeles Police Department.



I usually don't get political, but what the heck. I'm starting to get sick and tired of the "poor me attitude" from the LAPD. Yes it is very very difficult job but no one is forcing them to take it. Now they holding the safety of Rams fans for ransom if they don't get their money. They are basically extorting $2 million from the Rams.

Yes, the off duty officers should get paid for security but $2 million!! Let's break it down. According to the article there about 200 off-duty officers being used per game. Let's say the Rams gave each officer $100 per hour, fair? Each game takes each officer, lets say 5 hours per game. So that's $500 per game per officer. That's $100,000 for all the officers per game. There are 9 home games, including preseason, so a fair cost for the Rams is $900,000 for the entire season. That's more than twice as much as the police union is demanding.

I don't know if $100 per hour is the going rate, but it sounds fair to me, I'm also just guessing on the hours per game. But $500 for 5 hours work sounds more than generous to me. I'm a union guy but the police union is going way too far, as far as I'm concerned

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by Hacksaw
Garcetti best remember the boon his city is getting for free. ESK is building the stadium on his own 29 billion dimes after all.

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by BuiltRamTough
I'll serve and protect on game days for free, if I have to.

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by 47 Gap
+1000

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by Ramchester
There's another 47 Gap on this forum, and with the same profile pic as well? And I thought I was being original.

Changed avatar now.

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by Hacksaw
You guys might want to PM each other and work something out. You are separated by a hyphen.

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by /zn/
Hacksaw wrote:Garcetti best remember the boon his city is getting for free. ESK is building the stadium on his own 29 billion dimes after all.


No tax breaks or incentives? Cause if so, it's not entirely for free.

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by Rams the Legends live on
47 Gap wrote:I usually don't get political, but what the heck. I'm starting to get sick and tired of the "poor me attitude" from the LAPD. Yes it is very very difficult job but no one is forcing them to take it. Now they holding the safety of Rams fans for ransom if they don't get their money. They are basically extorting $2 million from the Rams.

Yes, the off duty officers should get paid for security but $2 million!! Let's break it down. According to the article there about 200 off-duty officers being used per game. Let's say the Rams gave each officer $100 per hour, fair? Each game takes each officer, lets say 5 hours per game. So that's $500 per game per officer. That's $100,000 for all the officers per game. There are 9 home games, including preseason, so a fair cost for the Rams is $900,000 for the entire season. That's more than twice as much as the police union is demanding.

I don't know if $100 per hour is the going rate, but it sounds fair to me, I'm also just guessing on the hours per game. But $500 for 5 hours work sounds more than generous to me. I'm a union guy but the police union is going way too far, as far as I'm concerned


I have never been a member of any union and your breakdown seems really reasonable and fair. Is there any possibility the amount they ask is because the union feels it should get a cut kicked upstairs for negotiating this? Like I said have never been a member so I have no idea if they look for some kind of cash being kicked up for their services.

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by St. Loser Fan
47 Gap wrote:This from the Daily News. My opinion is below.

LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Protective League today demanded that Stan Kroenke, the billionaire owner of the Rams, pay the full cost for necessary police services to ensure public safety at the team’s home games as long as it plays at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

“The estimated cost to provide police protection at Ram games is approximately $2 million a year,” LAPPL spokesman Dustin DeRollo said.

“Thus far the Rams have not agreed to pay their fair share of policing costs and this will drain police coverage in other areas of our city,” DeRollo said. “The LAPPL is also urging Mayor Eric Garcetti to reject any requests for sweetheart deals funded by the taxpayers for the NFL team.”

The temporary location of the Rams in Los Angeles has created a need for more than 200 police officers to ensure adequate safety at every home game at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, DeRollo said. A stadium scheduled to open in 2019 is being built for the Rams in Inglewood.

“This comes at a time when the LAPD has critically low staffing levels and the city of Los Angeles has experienced a dramatic increase in violent crime and property crime over the past two years,” DeRollo said.

The Rams issued a statement saying the team is “working with the LAPD to find solutions that work for everyone -- in fact, we have a few meetings already scheduled with LAPD and USC leadership in the coming weeks.”

“The safety of fans attending our games is a priority and we are appreciative of the great team at LAPD and other agencies that will be part of our game-day security operation for helping ensure a safe environment for our guests.”

The LAPPL union represents the more than 9,900 sworn members of the Los Angeles Police Department.



I usually don't get political, but what the heck. I'm starting to get sick and tired of the "poor me attitude" from the LAPD. Yes it is very very difficult job but no one is forcing them to take it. Now they holding the safety of Rams fans for ransom if they don't get their money. They are basically extorting $2 million from the Rams.

Yes, the off duty officers should get paid for security but $2 million!! Let's break it down. According to the article there about 200 off-duty officers being used per game. Let's say the Rams gave each officer $100 per hour, fair? Each game takes each officer, lets say 5 hours per game. So that's $500 per game per officer. That's $100,000 for all the officers per game. There are 9 home games, including preseason, so a fair cost for the Rams is $900,000 for the entire season. That's more than twice as much as the police union is demanding.

I don't know if $100 per hour is the going rate, but it sounds fair to me, I'm also just guessing on the hours per game. But $500 for 5 hours work sounds more than generous to me. I'm a union guy but the police union is going way too far, as far as I'm concerned


Good first swing. But I'd say 6+ hours per game. 2+ hours preface, 3 1/2 hours for game time plus an hour or two to clear the Coliseum and post game revelers.

Then there's protection for the visiting team 24/7 once they get in town. When the Rams played in St. Louis most visiting teams stayed at the Ritz Carlton in Clayton. They had City and County police covering them full time and a police motorcade to/from the airport as well as the Dome.

Finally you're not counting equipment costs, fuel/transportation and support personnel. Dispatchers, supervisors etc. plus I'm guessing helicopter coverage.

Re: L.A. Rams should pay full cost of LAPD security, says police union

PostPosted:8 years 11 months ago
by Rams the Legends live on
St. Loser Fan wrote:Good first swing. But I'd say 6+ hours per game. 2+ hours preface, 3 1/2 hours for game time plus an hour or two to clear the Coliseum and post game revelers.

Then there's protection for the visiting team 24/7 once they get in town. When the Rams played in St. Louis most visiting teams stayed at the Ritz Carlton in Clayton. They had City and County police covering them full time and a police motorcade to/from the airport as well as the Dome.

Finally you're not counting equipment costs, fuel/transportation and support personnel. Dispatchers, supervisors etc. plus I'm guessing helicopter coverage.


I have been doing searches so far this morn to see how much the union charges the Lakers and Kings, I have yielded no results could be my wording or maybe I should do a search for the Dodgers, what they are charged by them. However I would think if they already charge fellow sports venues they should have a good fair base line they can shoot from.