[Hacksaw_64]

Ourlads’ Guide to the NFL Draft is the only source that gives the number for the quarterback’s velocity at the NFL Combine. Velocity is measured by a radar gun in miles per hour.

Posted on March 2, 2016 by Dan Shonka

Year: 2016

Paxton Lynch, Memphis 59

Jared Goff, California 58

Carson Wentz, North Dakota State 57

Christian Hackenberg, Penn State 56

Joel Stave, Wisconsin 56

Jacoby Brissett, North Carolina State 56

Josh Woodrum, Liberty 56

Cody Kessler, Southern Cal 55

Brandon Allen, Arkansas 55

Trevone Boykin, TCU 55

Dak Prescott, Mississippi State 54

Nate Sudfeld, Indiana 54

Kevin Hogan, Stanford 53

Brandon Doughty, Western Kentucky 53

Vernon Adams, Oregon 53

Jeff Driskel, Louisana Tech 52

Connor Cook, Michigan State 50

Cardale Jones, Ohio State, Did not throw



YEAR: 2012
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State 59
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State 59
Austin Davis, Southern Mississippi 58
Nick Foles, Arizona 57
Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois 57
Jordan Jefferson, LSU 57
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin 55
Casey Keenum, Houston 55
Patrick Witt, Yale 54
Darron Thomas, Oregon 53
Ryan Lindley, San Diego State 52
Kellen Moore, Boise State 52
Jacory Harris, Miami 50
Aaron Corp, Richmond 50
BJ Coleman, Tennessee-Chattanooga Did not throw
Robert Griffin III, Baylor Did not throw
Andrew Luck, Stanford Did not throw
Brock Osweiler, Arizona State Did not throw
Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M Did not throw






YEAR: 2011
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada 59
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 58
Patrick Devlin, Delaware 56
Andy Dalton, TCU 56
Cam Newton, Auburn 56
Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin 55
Nathan Enderle, Idaho 54
Jake Locker, Washington 54
TJ Yates, North Carolina 52
Christian Ponder, Florida St 51
Ricky Stanzi, Iowa 50
Tyrod Taylor, Va Tech 50
Greg McElroy, Alabama Did not throw
Blaine Gabbert, Missouri Did not throw


Year: 2015

Bryan Bennett, SE Louisiana 60
Sean Mannion, Oregon State 57
Brandon Bridge, South Alabama 57
Marcus Mariota, Oregon 56
Anthony Boone, Duke 56
Jameis Winston, Florida State 55
Cody Fajardo, Nevada 55
Bryce Petty, Baylor 53
Brett Hundley, UCLA 53
Shane Carden, East Carolina 52
Jerry Lovelocke, Prairie View A&M 51
Nick Marshall, Auburn 50
Blake Sims, Alabama 42
Garrett Grayson, Colorado State, Did not throw
Connor Halliday, Washington State, Did not throw


YEAR: 2014




Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech 60
Stephen Morris, Miami 59
Tom Savage, Pittsburgh 57
Blake Bortles, Central Florida 56
Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois 56
Jeff Mathews, Cornell 56
Keith Wenning, Ball State 56
Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois 55
Tajh Boyd, Clemson 54
Bryn Renner, North Carolina 54
David Fales, San Jose State 53
AJ McCarron, Alabama 53
Dustin Vaughan, West Texas A&M 53
Connor Shaw, South Carolina 50
Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville – Did not throw
Derek Carr, Fresno State – Did not throw
Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M – Did not throw
Zach Mettenberger, LSU – Did not throw
Aaron Murray, Georgia – Did not throw

http://blogs.ourlads.com/2016/03/02/qua ... 2008-2015/

[Neil039]

Interesting post Hacksaw. You don't have to be the top of the list but over 55 appears to be the bench mark.

[Hacksaw_64]

I wish there was a little more about how this study was conducted. What I do like is its empirical nature of the radar gun for the test. In the end, no matter what you do you just can't fool it. Obviously its not the be all end all analytic. But I do like it.

Big Giant Red Flag = Connor Cook

The Chad Pennington arm comparisons may be for real.....

Both Goff and Lynch have a higher number than I would have thought....

[Elvis]

Cool stuff, i'm a big fan of the objective myself...

[dieterbrock]

Austin Davis threw it 58 so there are some outliers there.
But I don't see a guy under 55 that ever did anything in the NFL

[Hacksaw_64]

Austin Davis threw it 58 so there are some outliers there.
But I don't see a guy under 55 that ever did anything in the NFL

I think the only one I see is Tyrod Taylor. From what games I have watched of Buffalo, he didn't look to have too bad an arm...

[TSFH Fan]

I dunno about this . . . I don't think any of us think that radar-gun-combine-arm is the same thing as game arm.

Some pundits say that Joe Flacco has the best deep ball in the game. There's some connection between throwing hard and throwing long. Luckily, the one copy of Ourlads that I have, has Joe Flacco. Ourlads gun on Flacco said:

Ball velocity was 55 mph.

Two other gun results are noteworthy, not for the speed, but for the Ourlads' commentary.
For Brian Brohm:

Ball velocity in the 53 mph range which is good.

For Chad Henne:

Ball velocity 53 mph which is good.

Fast forward to more recent readings, Brandon Bridge was a QB I was looking at based on some scouting reports, like these:

Three-quarter thrower with elite arm strength and instant release. Has enough arm to make off-balance intermediate and deep throws that few (if any) in this draft can make.

He can throw it through a wall, but who knows if he can throw it right to me standing 15 yards away.

His arm strength is pure NFL, but his lack of functional accuracy simply cannot be overlooked.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ ... id=2552641

I watched game vids and yeah, guy seemed to have an arm, a scatter arm, but still an arm. But Ourlads has him throwing only at 57? Same as Mannion and less than Davis?

I'm just not sure that these speed gun numbers have any real use. True you can't fool the gun, but you can change some habits: like was Austin (and others) throwing harder at the combine knowing that there were critics of his arm strength? Were others babying their throws, trying to show touch, for their critics? Was Mike Brito manning the gun?

To me, these numbers need to be taken with . . .

[dieterbrock]

Austin Davis threw it 58 so there are some outliers there.
But I don't see a guy under 55 that ever did anything in the NFL

I think the only one I see is Tyrod Taylor. From what games I have watched of Buffalo, he didn't look to have too bad an arm...

Can't say he's done much yet either