[Deacon4Duck]

Rams have a 1st round pick and 2 second round picks. Should they roll the dice and go get either one of the two QBs?

[Elvis]

Don't know about Goff, but Wentz is probably worth some effort.

Then again, i really think our bread is buttered on the defensive side of the ball so maybe draft defense ...

[RamsFanSince82]

I don't think so. They have too many other needs to spend it on. They can't afford to move up for one of these guys that IMO are far from a sure thing or franchise type QB. A few years from now, one of them might develop into a better than average QB, but neither of them seem like they can make the impact of a Mariotta or Winston early in their career.

[ramsman34]

I would avoid QB in this draft unless at that pick one was rated as your BPA. Stick to the board with the exception of RB, punter, 3-technique, SS, and maybe RT and RG. Otherwise, draft who you think the best player is at that spot who can help your team ASAP. We either find a QB via trade or FA or stick with what we have. Gotta think long term here and I don't think any of the QBs in this draft - Maybe Wentz - will develop into a top-10 guy any time soon. JMO

[max]

It's a tough question. I think these QBs are better than many people are saying. Sure, it's not a draft like last year with Wintson and Mariota going 1-2.

But the 3rd and 4th QBs in this draft are better prospects than there were last year.

The Rams spent a lot of time with Wentz, Goff, Lynch, and Cook this week, so we know they are interested. The key will be to see which one they bring in for a visit first. Thats usually a telltale sign of who their favorite is.

Snead and Fisher are really good at knowing what team wants what player and where. So if they are sold on one of these guys they will move up or down to where they expect them to go.

My guess at this time is that if the Rams want Goff they will probably have to trade up to 6 with Balt to get him, and that will cost them a 2nd and probably their 4th as well.

Forget Wentz. He's not getting past Cleveland at #2.

My hunch right now is that they are targeting Cook. But I'll just wait and see when they bring him if at all. Warner said some good things about him. So did some other guys. Actually, I like him better than Lynch at this point.

[BuiltRamTough]

Depends on the asking price.

I would give up a 1st and 2's and 5 to move up.

Then again, I'm a Connor Cook fan so I would stay put and draft him.

[OldSchool]

Wentz is going to Cleveland at 2 I just don't see how they don't take him. So that makes the question who do we trade up with.

Dallas? Doubtful they desperately need a playmaker on defense and they'll be able to take either Bosa or Ramsey.
Chargers could go many ways but QB is doubtful, they're a good spot to trade up to but how badly does Spanos hate Kroenke?
Jaguars just flat out need playmakers especially on defense and could end up with a good one at 5 and with a ton of cap space they really don't need to add picks.
Baltimore? Could be a spot to trade down, especially if Hargreaves and Ramsey are gone with secondary being a huge need for them. They could also go with Myles Jack for their OLB spot.
Seven is San Fran which we'll likely have to trade in front of. But we won't know for a bit as the Kaepernick saga unfolds. They could be in for a QB but don't think Chip wants to roll with a rookie that he doesn't know.
Miami at 8 is a good spot for Ragland to fall especially if hte top 2 corners are gone. Could also be Stanley as the 2nd OT to go.
Tampa again just needs playmakers especially pass rushers and Dodd and Buckland are there ripe for the picking. But it's a deep DLine draft they could trade down and add a pick and still get a good DE at 15.
Ten takes us to the Giants who need anything in the front seven. Perhaps even Treadwell? A big slower possession guy would be nice opposite OBJ!

So really in the top ten IMO trading up would be best done to either 4 or 6. If we don't and he gets past SF I'm on the phone with Miami fast as I can so somebody else doesn't trade up in front of us.

[BuiltRamTough]

Wentz is going to Cleveland at 2 I just don't see how they don't take him. So that makes the question who do we trade up with.

Dallas? Doubtful they desperately need a playmaker on defense and they'll be able to take either Bosa or Ramsey.
Chargers could go many ways but QB is doubtful, they're a good spot to trade up to but how badly does Spanos hate Kroenke?
Jaguars just flat out need playmakers especially on defense and could end up with a good one at 5 and with a ton of cap space they really don't need to add picks.
Baltimore? Could be a spot to trade down, especially if Hargreaves and Ramsey are gone with secondary being a huge need for them. They could also go with Myles Jack for their OLB spot.
Seven is San Fran which we'll likely have to trade in front of. But we won't know for a bit as the Kaepernick saga unfolds. They could be in for a QB but don't think Chip wants to roll with a rookie that he doesn't know.
Miami at 8 is a good spot for Ragland to fall especially if hte top 2 corners are gone. Could also be Stanley as the 2nd OT to go.
Tampa again just needs playmakers especially pass rushers and Dodd and Buckland are there ripe for the picking. But it's a deep DLine draft they could trade down and add a pick and still get a good DE at 15.
Ten takes us to the Giants who need anything in the front seven. Perhaps even Treadwell? A big slower possession guy would be nice opposite OBJ!

So really in the top ten IMO trading up would be best done to either 4 or 6. If we don't and he gets past SF I'm on the phone with Miami fast as I can so somebody else doesn't trade up in front of us.

"Wentz is going to Cleveland at 2 I just don't see how they don't take him. So that makes the question who do we trade up with. "

The Browns will be foolish not to take Wentz or Goff but I think Wentz is a can't miss.

I'd do cartwheels if the Rams could move up and draft him. Omg

[Elvis]

Well Tennessee is sitting there at #1 twiddling their thumbs hoping to trade down.

If the LA Rams really want to make a splash for their new city, they could work out a deal and take Wentz.

But i'm hoping they'll act more like they have the last few years and look for value.

Plus, like i've said a million times, i doubt this regime could really develop and maximize a highly talented QB. I'd rather see them stick to what they do best...

[TSFH Fan]

If you like Wentz, I say wait 3-4 years and he'll probably be available again w/o having to give up a draft pick.

But seriously, I'm not sold on the guy. Bradford and Manziel had great workouts. Tebow even sported a new and improved delivery in his workout. Workouts seemingly mean nothing.

Here's Bill Parcells' Four Rules for Drafting a QB:

1. He must be a senior, because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback.
2. He must be a graduate, because you want someone who takes his responsibilities seriously.
3. He must be a three-year starter, because you need to make sure his success wasn’t ephemeral and that he has lived as “the guy” for some period of time.
4. He must have at least 23 wins, because the big passing numbers must come in the context of winning games.

http://smartfootball.com/quarterbacking ... 7teet.dpbs

Wentz doesn't pass the last 2 parts.

Then there's the ancient 26-27-60 rule of thumb:

Call it the Rule of 26-27-60.

Here is the gist of it: If an NFL prospect scores at least a 26 on the Wonderlic test, starts at least 27 games in his college career and completes at least 60 percent of his passes, there's a good chance he will succeed at the NFL level.

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2010/07/08/qb-rule
More here: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/13/3 ... ck-success

I've got Wentz with 23 starts so he's short there.

Wentz has a career of 612 pass attempts. Ryan Tannehill was downgraded for his lack of experience and he had 774 career pass attempts at A&M -- arguably a "real" college football program -- with Mike Sherman -- arguably a decent NFL level coach. Wentz was where?

But, with all that being said, I agree with author Malcolm Gladwell:

There has also been a real effort by the folks over at Pro Football Outsiders to come up with a more useful algorithm for making quarterback selections. David Lewin’s “career forecast” zeroes in on career college starts and career college completion percentage as the best predictors of professional performance. I took the position in my essay “Most Likely to Succeed” that I didn’t think that quarterbacking (as opposed to other positions on the field) was predictable in this sense—that there is so much noise in the data, and so much variability between the college and professional games—that attempts at rationalizing draft day decisions have real limits. I’m still of that inclination.

http://gladwell.typepad.com/gladwellcom ... backs.html

So going back to something I said elsewhere, I'd probably have a better idea once I got the psych eval. on Wentz. But w/o the psych eval. and going off of the mega-incomplete picture that we have, I'll vote no on moving up to grab Wentz.

Haven't gotten around to Goff yet.