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I know this D is growing up fast and I know the Bills have a great OLine. I have to feel the plan was to contain Allen. He broke away 3-4 times and yes they were back breakers but our Offense knew they had to keep scoring. Had we gone for sacks all day, Allen might have killed us with his legs. If that wasn’t the plan I guess we are still a draft away on the DLine too.

ramsww wrote:I know this D is growing up fast and I know the Bills have a great OLine. I have to feel the plan was to contain Allen. He broke away 3-4 times and yes they were back breakers but our Offense knew they had to keep scoring. Had we gone for sacks all day, Allen might have killed us with his legs. If that wasn’t the plan I guess we are still a draft away on the DLine too.

The plan was 'see how we stacked up against one of the best teams in the NFL'. As McVay called it, 'a litmus test'. "Contain Allen"? Who was the last team to do that? The Bills have scored 30+ the last 7 games (232 points; 33 PPG) against some pretty good D's (#2 Tenn, #6 KC, #3 SF). I think the plan was, "score more points". We outplayed them in two of the three phases.

PARAM wrote:The plan was 'see how we stacked up against one of the best teams in the NFL'. As McVay called it, 'a litmus test'. "Contain Allen"? Who was the last team to do that? The Bills have scored 30+ the last 7 games (232 points; 33 PPG) against some pretty good D's (#2 Tenn, #6 KC, #3 SF). I think the plan was, "score more points". We outplayed them in two of the three phases.

I actually feel they did contain him per the back 8 talent we have. I’m being sincere saying, had we taken the other approach Allen may have had 150 yds rushing, 4 TDs and the W. I was stunned that Verse & Young never laid a glove on Allen that wasn’t accompanied by a flag and a 1st down.

I can’t believe we aren’t better than that upfront. On the flip side, Stafford was sacked 7 times the last time we played the Bills. Kudos to our OLine and McVay for finding a way to win the best regular season game since the “Chefs” at Rams on MNF with Goff. Highest scoring NFL game this year knocking off the AFC champs on a 7 game winning streak!

We did get the W. And we did in the only way we could against a team like the Bills. Some teams just have too many weapons... those team score consistently above 30, like the Bills. McVay did a good job (most of the time) to keep up and keep from the Rams from punting. He played a bit too conservative for a hot minute in the 4th and we almost lost our momentum and the game.

However, I think there is something to edge contain that we are missing. Its possible that you can't both apply good pressure against a QB like Allen and also provide solid edge contain. We saw the impact of this problem against the Eagles, also.

The big problem, however, is the secondary. Its not a fix, but maybe Forbes could spark something there. We haven't had too many picks... and that's because other teams seem to outrace our secondary. Forbes might be quick enough to get us some help in that department.

We are definitely good enough to beat the remaining schedule. We just need to play to our potential.

Allen didn't run much the first half. Most his damage was the second half. Quarterbacks like him have more trust in their legs than their arms when the game is on the line.

Funny thing though, the last few years most the Superbowl championship teams had quarterbacks who prefer to use their arms instead of their legs when the game is on the line.

Foles, Brady, Stafford, Mahomes. Mahomes can run, and has, but he is one who would rather make plays throwing the ball than running with it. Guys like Allen, Jackson, Hurts will tuck it and run early in the play while the others will wait a little longer to make plays with their arms.

Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO...

Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO...

Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do.