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 by safer
3 weeks 3 days ago
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We did it again today and almost all teams do the same. Say we go for two and make it, our odds to win dramatically go up as it becomes a two score lead. IF we don't make it, we still have a seven point lead and if the rivals score a TD then they will have to choose if they want to risk it all by going for two.
Am I right?

 by 69RamFan
3 weeks 3 days ago
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safer wrote:We did it again today and almost all teams do the same. Say we go for two and make it, our odds to win dramatically go up as it becomes a two score lead. IF we don't make it, we still have a seven point lead and if the rivals score a TD then they will have to choose if they want to risk it all by going for two.
Am I right?


At what point in the game are you talking about going for two?

Cause when we went ahead after the first TD, we went for an XP to make it 7pts,
giving us the lead at 7 to 6.

which is a better choice based on percentage of going for one pt instead of two.

Then we score another TD with an XP, to go up by 8pts, 14 to 6,

Once again, better percentage of making the extra point than going for two.

 by PARAM
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69RamFan wrote:At what point in the game are you talking about going for two?

Cause when we went ahead after the first TD, we went for an XP to make it 7pts,
giving us the lead at 7 to 6.

which is a better choice based on percentage of going for one pt instead of two.

Then we score another TD with an XP, to go up by 8pts, 14 to 6,

Once again, better percentage of making the extra point than going for two.


There was no time in the game where going for 2 would have been the right move and you just pointed it out. The idea of going for 2 is based on it not hurting you if you miss.

After the first TD, if we miss, it's 6-6. After the 2nd TD if we miss it's a 7 point lead so there it might have been okay....but why pass the chance to go up 8? After the third TD, no way do you give them a chance to win with 7.

 by 69RamFan
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PARAM wrote:There was no time in the game where going for 2 would have been the right move and you just pointed it out. The idea of going for 2 is based on it not hurting you if you miss.

After the first TD, if we miss, it's 6-6. After the 2nd TD if we miss it's a 7 point lead so there it might have been okay....but why pass the chance to go up 8? After the third TD, no way do you give them a chance to win with 7.


Exactly, that's my point from the OP!!!

 by Elvis
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Personally i think this is a great question.

Being up 9 is better than being up 8 by more than being up 8 is better than 7.

So i think it's definitely worth considering in a lot of situations, having a lot to do with how much time is left in a game...

 by actionjack
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Elvis wrote:Personally i think this is a great question.

Being up 9 is better than being up 8 by more than being up 8 is better than 7.

So i think it's definitely worth considering in a lot of situations, having a lot to do with how much time is left in a game...



I would like to see the Rams feign like they are going for two in the first half, if they get the look they want go for two, if not call a TO and kick the extra point.

 by Gareth
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Elvis wrote:Personally i think this is a great question.

Being up 9 is better than being up 8 by more than being up 8 is better than 7.

So i think it's definitely worth considering in a lot of situations, having a lot to do with how much time is left in a game...


If you go for two and miss it leaves you up by seven. Then the other team can beat you with a two point conversion if they choose to go for it. So the question comes down to do you think you have a better chance of making your two point conversion or stopping the other team's two point conversion.

 by safer
3 weeks 1 day ago
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Early in the 4th qtr we scored to make it 13-6 before our extra point. IF we went for two and made it, we would have been up by NINE which would have made it a 2 score game. IF we were not successful, then they could have tied the game with one TD and a kicked extra point. Obviously, that team would then have to make the choice of going for one or two; to tie, or go for the lead.
Almost all of the teams in the league just go for the extra point, but how many extra point attempts have been missed this year? In the later stages of a game, I think it would be wise to go for it. JMHO How many short field goal and extra point kicks have we missed this year? That kick is certainly not guaranteed, my friends ;)

 by Elvis
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Gareth wrote:If you go for two and miss it leaves you up by seven. Then the other team can beat you with a two point conversion if they choose to go for it. So the question comes down to do you think you have a better chance of making your two point conversion or stopping the other team's two point conversion.


Most teams will go for 1 in that situation, maybe not Payton.

I think your question applies to this situation:

If you make your 2, you go up by 9 it's a 2 score game.

If you kick and go up 8, they have to make a 2 to tie.

That's where you ask yourself: Am i more likely to make the 2 or stop theirs?

This year teams are only making about 31% of 2 point tries but last year it was 55%.

What happened Sunday?

Rams kicked, went up 8, Saints scored a TD and made their 2 point try to tie game...

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