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 by Elvis
8 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   38885  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

Hey bubby, ready for the big night?

Have you tried to contact Fred Roggin ahead of time to let him know you'll be there and what you want to talk about? It might help make sure you get heard. He might even put you on the radio.

Good luck...

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 by kayfabe
8 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   128  
 Joined:  Jun 16 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Practice Squad

Great and while you're there hopefully someone will bother to ask where the current documents are
for the stadium
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/06/carson_claims_there_are_literally_zero_records_of_plan_to_build_chargersraiders_nfl_stadium.php

Maybe even a Voice of San Diego representative if you're lucky. And if you're REALLY lucky, maybe they'll
be a Goldman Sachs speaker as well to explain away any conflicts of interest between Carson and St. Louis too!
http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2015/3/9/8165159/chargers-stadium-news-san-diego-battles-goldman-sachs-vampire-squid

 by Hacksaw
8 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Knock 'em dead bubba. I'm thinking of driving up if I can rearrange my meetings this evening, PM me and we'll go over it.

 by bubbaramfan
8 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   1118  
 Joined:  Apr 30 2015
United States of America   Carson Landfill
Pro Bowl

Howdy folks! Yes, I'm ready for the Carson townhall meeting!

Here's a little update: i just got back from hanging out at the front gate of the proposed Carson stadium site. (Del Amo Blvd + Main St) for about an hour. Lots of coming and going. News 5 KTLA, News 4 NBC, at least two limo's and varius other unmarked cars. More traffice in and out of there than I've seen in the last 2 months. Maybe some important folks want to see the site before they get to the meeting? Anyway I tried to get close to ask some q's but the gate security ran me off.
I will be there early and hope to get to talk with Fred Rogan, who will be the MC. He's been talking about the meeting on his show here on 980am. He says he'll be there early too.
Good question Kay, I'll try and get that in. My questions will center on the remediation process and where the site stands in the estimation of the California State Board of Health and the EPA and what else has to be done to get thier OK for construction.
I'll be posting here what I learned at the meeting shortly after it is over, while its still fresh in my mind.

PS. Fred just said Mark Fabriani will also be speaking.

 by Elvis
8 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   38885  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

kayfabe wrote:Great and while you're there hopefully someone will bother to ask where the current documents are
for the stadium
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/06/carson_claims_there_are_literally_zero_records_of_plan_to_build_chargersraiders_nfl_stadium.php

Maybe even a Voice of San Diego representative if you're lucky. And if you're REALLY lucky, maybe they'll
be a Goldman Sachs speaker as well to explain away any conflicts of interest between Carson and St. Louis too!
http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2015/3/9/8165159/chargers-stadium-news-san-diego-battles-goldman-sachs-vampire-squid


Posting the 2nd one 'cause it's good:

Chargers Stadium News: San Diego Battles Goldman Sachs

By Jeffrey Siniard  @JeffSiniard on Mar 9, 2015, 10:16a 31

Goldman Sachs serves as both the Chargers' investment banker, and as a paid consultant for the St. Louis Stadium Authority. And, in this case, they're the perfect foil for Kevin Faulconer and the City of San Diego.

Before continuing on, you really need to read this piece by of Voice of San Diego's Beau Lynott, regarding Goldman Sachs' (Goldman) position in relation to the Chargers, the Rams, and Chargers Special Counsel Mark Fabiani.

For those who won't read the piece, here's the short, short version:

Goldman is the Chargers' investment banker, and they're bankrolling the Carson stadium project.
Goldman is a paid consultant for the St. Louis Stadium Authority.
Goldman hired Fabiani a few years ago to help with their PR when facing potential Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) fraud charges.
The NFL's lead on Los Angeles, Senior VP Eric Grubman, used to work for Goldman.
Excellent, now that you've all read the piece (or the recap), let's plug in the most pertinent paragraph.

"If the Chargers end up with a San Diego stadium solution, Goldman Sachs will have done their duty to their client, in that they would have helped them reach a satisfactory outcome. But will Goldman act as an honest broker if they are involved in negotiations to build a stadium in San Diego? It would go against their own financial interests in Los Angeles and St. Louis. They stand to gain much less if a stadium is built here (in San Diego)"

First off, Goldman is accustomed to getting its way. This was an investment firm which essentially put a loaded gun to the head of the world economy back in 2008 to get its money:

"(Goldman) was going to pull the pin not only on AIG, but on the financial universe if someone (emphasis in original) didn't come up with the money it felt it was owed by AIG" - Matt Taibbi, Griftopia. Pg 116.

That being said, there's no greater villain for an elected official to rail against than big business, especially when the business in question is universally detested as one of primary actors in the Great Recession, one which received billions (which has been paid back) in bailout money from taxpayers, and one which is notorious for cycling former employees into government, then back into the company.

Simply put, this allows local government to play the hero for San Diego, trying to save Chargers from being sucked up by the "Vampire Squid."

Secondly, any time Fabiani issues a criticism of the Citizen's Stadium Advisory Group (Stadium Group), the City can issue a counter-attack against Fabiani. Even better, these aren't hollow attacks. These are legitimate questions regarding conflict-of-interest, and they do honestly call into question whether the City even has a chance of reaching a deal with the Chargers. For instance, the next time Fabiani goes on the offensive, the City could counter with:

"Who does Fabiani really represent? Given his history with Goldman, is he working for Mr. Spanos or a group of greedy Wall Street banksters?"
"We have to wonder if Fabiani will even consider giving San Diego a fair chance at the bargaining table. Will his old friends at Goldman allow it?"
Thirdly, this allows the City to counter-attack without attacking Dean Spanos directly.

Lastly, as far as Spanos is concerned, he's also in a position to play the hero - by reaching a deal with the City and holding off whatever pressure Goldman is inclined to place on him.

Author's Note: the phrase "vampire squid" is attributed to Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi, while the term "banksters" is attributed to talk-show host Thom Hartmann.

 by Hacksaw
8 years 11 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

And Inglewood,, crickets !!!

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