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 by BuiltRamTough
9 years 3 months ago
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Armenia   Los Angeles
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http://www.kpbs.org/news/2015/jun/18/we ... dium-ques/
‘We’re Out Of Time’ — So Says Chargers Stadium Spokesman



Aired 6/18/15 on KPBS Midday Edition.

San Diego City, County Negotiators To Talk To NFL About Stadium Plans

GUESTS:

Mark Fabiani, special counsel, San Diego Chargers

Jan Goldsmith, San Diego city attorney

Jim Steeg, former NFL and Chargers executive

In dueling interviews on KPBS Midday Edition, the San Diego city attorney and a spokesman for the Chargers took opposing stances in the battle over a new stadium for the San Diego Chargers.

There is nothing left that the city of San Diego can do to solve the stadium issue before the NFL owners vote on whether to allow the Chargers to move to Los Angeles, Chargers spokesman Mark Fabiani said.

“Obviously, we’re out of time for 2015," Fabiani told KPBS. "And if the NFL owners in their judgment decide to move ahead with Los Angeles in 2015, then, no, it’s hard to see how anything can happen. On the other hand, if for whatever reason the Los Angeles decision was delayed by NFL owners for another year, which is certainly possible — it may not be likely but it’s possible — then, of course, you have another year to work on it.”

City Attorney Jan Goldsmith countered that the city can finish an environmental impact report on the proposed new facility at the Qualcomm Stadium site in Mission Valley by October and be ready for a public vote by January.

Goldsmith told KPBS that the city “hasn’t even started” negotiating with the Chargers over who will pay for what, and that the plans for the new stadium can’t move ahead unless the Chargers are willing to be at the table.

The two men disagreed over whether an environmental impact report, which is required by California law, could be complete before a public vote on the stadium is held in January. Goldsmith said the study began June 1 and that experts who work on these studies told the city it could be finished by Oct. 15.

“I don’t think we have a CEQA problem. We have a Chargers problem,” Goldsmith said, referring to the California Environmental Quality Act.

Fabiani said the team believes a rushed report would open the city to legal challenges.

“We’re not about to engage in some sort of novel legal strategy that’s never been tried,” he said.

But Goldsmith said he doesn't think a rushed environmental report will lead to legal challenges because the city is planning to build a replacement stadium on a site that already houses a stadium.

“We don’t have to give opinions on traffic. We know what the traffic has been for the past 50 years,” he said.

When KPBS asked Fabiani why the Chargers agreed to negotiations with the city if the timeline was impossible, he said, “We were hoping the city would come up with something we hadn’t thought of.”

Fabiani said he warned the city in January that Mayor Kevin Faulconer's Citizens' Stadium Advisory Group would be a “waste of time,” and he blamed the time the group took to come up with a stadium plan for running out the clock. He also said the Chargers told the city in February that the team would explore the option of building a joint stadium with the Oakland Raiders in Carson, a suburb of Los Angeles.

A Carson City Council meeting this week broke into turmoil on the subject of the joint stadium when city officials accused each other of corruption, according to the Los Angeles Times. Carson’s mayor authorized a $180,000 contract for a consultant to help with the environmental report for the proposed stadium, but that wasn’t what caused the outburst. Instead, it was because the mayor changed the combination to a safe in Carson City Hall.

Jim Steeg, a member of Faulconer's Chargers task force, told KPBS that the Chargers would have to get 24 out of 32 votes from the NFL owners to be allowed to move to Los Angeles.

He said the NFL has not said when that vote will occur, but that he doesn’t expect it will happen during the football season, which runs from September to February.

But potential vote dates keep changing, Steeg said, and have included February, January and December.

NFL executives have publicly said they hope to have a team in Los Angeles as soon as next year, and decisions on whether teams will move there could come this fall.

 by BuiltRamTough
9 years 3 months ago
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Listening to the interview, basically the Chargers aren't even going to negotiate for the reminder of 2015.

Just a guess, what if the last LA committee meeting Spanos and Kroenke made a deal to play in Inglewood and kick some money to Oakland?

 by Hacksaw
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Some one please explain to me what the difference is between what Kroenke is doing(or not) in StL and what Spanos is doing (or not) in San Diego?
Probably a bit hard to determine considering no one will say what ESK has already done in StL but my point is how can the league chose the Chargers over Rams considering they are both in similar situation and have acted similarly?
As I believe BRT said, if the Chargers leave SD after 50 years, they will be committing franchise suicide moving to LA,, especially if another team is going their too. We don't love the Bolts in LA.
Spanos is pissing me off.

 by Elvis
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BuiltRamTough wrote:Listening to the interview, basically the Chargers aren't even going to negotiate for the reminder of 2015.

Just a guess, what if the last LA committee meeting Spanos and Kroenke made a deal to play in Inglewood and kick some money to Oakland?


That's the solution Vinny B. keeps suggesting.

I still think SD might be playing for downtown SD but i guess we'll find out...

 by SoCalRam78
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United States of America   SoCal
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Hacksaw wrote:Some one please explain to me what the difference is between what Kroenke is doing(or not) in StL and what Spanos is doing (or not) in San Diego?
Probably a bit hard to determine considering no one will say what ESK has already done in StL but my point is how can the league chose the Chargers over Rams considering they are both in similar situation and have acted similarly?
As I believe BRT said, if the Chargers leave SD after 50 years, they will be committing franchise suicide moving to LA,, especially if another team is going their too. We don't love the Bolts in LA.
Spanos is pissing me off.



There is no difference. Except SK is quiet and lets his actions do the talking while over in SD you get a lot of negative press and that mouthpiece tool Fabiani going off. In St. Louis you have other tools like Bernie M clamoring about Peacock and Blitz like their proposal is the second coming. See the difference? The Rams don't say much and the media goes gaga goo goo over the Riverfront stadium. It's all perception and media spin.

The Rams have sent representatives to Riverfront meetings, the Chargers pretty thrown up a roadblock to anything and everything SD is trying to do. Actually, you can make more of an argument for the Rams moving over the Chargers based on the "good faith negotiations" argument. The Rams are playing by the book, the Chargers are not. Also considering the Rams have the stronger LA fan base, the better proposal, and the more shovel ready proposal, it's a no brainer.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 3 months ago
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SoCalRam78 wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Some one please explain to me what the difference is between what Kroenke is doing(or not) in StL and what Spanos is doing (or not) in San Diego?
Probably a bit hard to determine considering no one will say what ESK has already done in StL but my point is how can the league chose the Chargers over Rams considering they are both in similar situation and have acted similarly?
As I believe BRT said, if the Chargers leave SD after 50 years, they will be committing franchise suicide moving to LA,, especially if another team is going their too. We don't love the Bolts in LA.
Spanos is pissing me off.



There is no difference. Except SK is quiet and lets his actions do the talking while over in SD you get a lot of negative press and that mouthpiece tool Fabiani going off. In St. Louis you have other tools like Bernie M clamoring about Peacock and Blitz like their proposal is the second coming. See the difference? The Rams don't say much and the media goes gaga goo goo over the Riverfront stadium. It's all perception and media spin.

The Rams have sent representatives to Riverfront meetings, the Chargers pretty thrown up a roadblock to anything and everything SD is trying to do. Actually, you can make more of an argument for the Rams moving over the Chargers based on the "good faith negotiations" argument. The Rams are playing by the book, the Chargers are not. Also considering the Rams have the stronger LA fan base, the better proposal, and the more shovel ready proposal, it's a no brainer.


Alrighty then, I'm sold.

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