[NJRAMFAN1]

No matter what side of the aisle you are on, as a football fan this has to piss you off.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/314 ... te-scandal

[azramsfan93]

No matter what side of the aisle you are on, as a football fan this has to piss you off.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/314 ... te-scandal

Wow! That 's the first story published by the leftist media accusing Trump of something without ANY real evidence.

Man, the leftist media misses Trump badly. They continue to publish unsupported stories because he has full-time residence in their brains.

The whole basis of this story is that friends of Specter’s BELIEVE it to be true. That's good enough to run with it. Wow.

[NJRAMFAN1]

Sort of how one person, Agent Orange, started the Big Lie about the election being stolen and now right wingers believe it without any proof after all the law suits were shot down before Agent Orange appointed judges.

[majik]

Wow! That 's the first story published by the leftist media accusing Trump of something without ANY real evidence.

Man, the leftist media misses Trump badly. They continue to publish unsupported stories because he has full-time residence in their brains.

The whole basis of this story is that friends of Spectre's BELIEVE it to be true. That's good enough to run with it. Wow.

Amazing how the supporters of the Insurrectionist discount any accusations against their cult leader, however 1000% buy into any unsubstantiated and quickly debunked conspiracy theory their cult leader puts out there. Drink down that Kool-Aid.

[AvengerRam]

Well... this one seems destined for the General Discussion board.

I, for one, am uninterested in this hearsay laden report. What irks me about Spygate is that it was not handled by the league. I have little doubt that the league had a lot more proof of wrongdoing than has ever been disclosed and, if I'm right, Belichick and his cronies should have been banned a long time ago.

Alas, that didn't happen. Not going to lose sleep over it.

[majik]

True, the sham internal investigation by the Commissioner’s Office was designed to sweep things under the rug. How would have the NFL dealt with the revelations and punishment?

Sean Payton got suspended for one year for the bountygate, yet Bellicheat gets nothing.

[St. Loser Fan]

I don’t give two shits about the supposed Trump angle.

I do care the NFL killed all the proof by stomping the video tape proof in the Patriot offices. But I know there’s nothing I can do about it. It’s not like I can cancel my season tickets to express my displeasure.

[majik]

The contention that Trump is the “mutual friend” makes sense in that it provided him the opportunity to ingratiate himself with Goodell and a powerful owner in Kraft in order to eventually be able to purchase an NFL team, the white whale he had been chasing since the mid-80’s when he destroyed the USFL in an attempt to force a merger with the NFL an get himself a franchise. Remember he was a major contender to purchase the Buffalo Bills after Wilson’s death in 2014.

[Elvis]

If the story is true, makes you wonder if there were untoward efforts to make spygate go away were successful.

There was this Martz story from 2015 (but Martz is pretty unreliable in these kinds of situation, IMO):

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/repo ... -findings/

According to the report, after the Spygate scandal broke in 2007, Martz returned a call from Commissioner Roger Goodell and during a five-minute conversation Goodell sounded "panicked" about the possibility of a wide-ranging investigation to the Patriots' videotaping habits. Martz said the commissioner asked him to write a statement saying that he was satisfied with the NFL's Spygate investigation, had no reason to believe the Patriots cheated, and asking everyone to move on.

"He told me, 'The league doesn't need this. We're asking you to come out with a couple lines exonerating us and saying we did our due diligence,'" Martz told ESPN in July. Martz added that Goodell told him, "If it ever got to an investigation, it would be terrible for the league."

Still, despite having more questions, Martz agreed that a congressional investigation "could kill the league," and he wrote a statement that night that he was "very confident there was no impropriety" and that it was "time to put this behind us."

Not surprisingly, Martz remains skeptical. At the time, he says Goodell "told me to take him at his word. ... It was hard to swallow because I always felt something happened but I didn't know what it was and I couldn't prove it anyway. Even to this day, I think something happened."

[moklerman]

I realize many can't talk about Trump without going on tilt. However, IMO the Spygate cover-up and the election cover-up resemble each other. Why wasn't there more time and effort into finding out what really happened? Both situations seemed to get brushed under the rug as quickly as possible.

As far as Spygate, I have wondered what was best in the long run? Obviously, I think the Rams were cheated and wish they could have won that SB. But, what would it have done to the league if they confirmed that the Patriots were cheating? Do I really want the NFL to go away in exchange for the Rams to have another ring? Sadly, deny something enough and there are people who will believe it because they want to believe it. Admit that the league covers up cheating and it could all come crashing down.

Which isn't too far different from the US admitting that there was election fraud. If they did that, it would cause far more damage than transparency would gain. IMO of course.