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Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by LoyalRam
I'm listening to Frank Cusimano's Show, and Lester Munson from ESPN was invited as a guest..Don't know this guy, except that Cusimano was treating him as an elder reporter-statesman.....The way Munson said, the best way for Kroenke has to get his way in all of this process, is just to move and "ask for forgiveness later" He says the NFL is trying to exude a cloack of invincibility in a possible AntiTrust Case, which he says is simply not the case. He says that if Kroenke just moves the team and starts building the stadium, even though they award Carson the LA area. With Kroenke going rogue, the NFL would have a choice: Three teams in LA, which they say they don't want, a huge AntiTrust case against the 2nd richest Owner in the NFL (which he says the Rams wouldn't lose), or telling Spanos and Davis to stand down and get stadiums in their own markets..

"His best action if the Raiders/Chargers don't budge in dealing with Kroenke is to move before they can do anything and start building. It's what Art Modell did with the Browns. The Rams and the Colts went rogue similarly. The NFL can not act in concert against an owner in this case, or they would be in big trouble with the Courts
~Lester Munson

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by Stranger
Yup. Which is why the deal is already done. Insiders understand what the real leverage is and who has it. Kroenke already has LA to himself. Next goal is for the NFL PR machine to work it's magic to get Spanos his downtown SD stadium and for Davis to get his land from local gov. so he can build a new Oakland stadium

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by ramsfan1977
Stranger wrote:Yup. Which is why the deal is already done. Insiders understand what the real leverage is and who has it. Kroenke already has LA to himself. Next goal is for the NFL PR machine to work it's magic to get Spanos his downtown SD stadium and for Davis to get his land from local gov. so he can build a new Oakland stadium


What about that document they are being force to sign that if they are not chosen, they cannot sue?

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by LoyalRam
ramsfan1977 wrote:
Stranger wrote:Yup. Which is why the deal is already done. Insiders understand what the real leverage is and who has it. Kroenke already has LA to himself. Next goal is for the NFL PR machine to work it's magic to get Spanos his downtown SD stadium and for Davis to get his land from local gov. so he can build a new Oakland stadium


What about that document they are being force to sign that if they are not chosen, they cannot sue?


I was worried about that too, but Kroenke could challenge the contract as extortion maybe? He wanted to move his team to a vacant area, and if he percieves that the NFL railroaded him with the idea of it being a fair process and it wasn't? He would have signed under false circumstances if so..Which normally means you are screwed if you are Joe Blow, but not as the $7 billion dollar man.

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by Stranger
ramsfan1977 wrote:
Stranger wrote:Yup. Which is why the deal is already done. Insiders understand what the real leverage is and who has it. Kroenke already has LA to himself. Next goal is for the NFL PR machine to work it's magic to get Spanos his downtown SD stadium and for Davis to get his land from local gov. so he can build a new Oakland stadium


What about that document they are being force to sign that if they are not chosen, they cannot sue?

He won't sign it.

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by snackdaddy
I'm sure Stan is in the process of negotiating. He wouldn't want to do anything rash like threaten to sue, go rogue, etc. unless they decide against him. Best to play nice until there's no other option. If it comes down to forcing the league to accept his terms he does have leverage. Remember when they voted against Georgia the first time and relented after she threatened to sue? He does have that option in his pocket. He just doesn't need to bring it out just yet. Hopefully they will consider whats best for the league which is clearly his proposal.

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by SoCalRam78
Munson is a legal analyst, I assume impartial, but who knows.

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by LoyalRam
SoCalRam78 wrote:Munson is a legal analyst, I assume impartial, but who knows.


That gives him more weight, in my book....He was no-nonsense about Kroenke winning in Court and that the NFL would have to busckle.

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by LoyalRam
One way Kronke can call the process unfair and that contract BS (if he signed it)..Is that the Rams adjusted the completion date to 2019, and so far, the toxic dump is right on course for 2019? Even before a single methane well has been installed and measuring the effectiveness of them after a year? Not even considering the possible environmental slowdowns that seem inevitable to me...If the NFL accepts this 2019 Carson Completion date, I would warn the NFL and Carson partners with a lawsuit to break any restrictions on the Rams due to a false process..I'm no lawyer, but this makes sense to me.

Re: Per Lester Munson/ESPN..."Better to ask for Forgiveness..

PostPosted:9 years 5 months ago
by bubbaramfan
Original lease with owners votes approveing move to St, Louis in '95 supercedes any other document added later.