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Here's what the Pats D has done against QBs the last 3 weeks....
Passer ratings:
Murray 67.0
Herbert 43.7
Goff 74.5

And here's what the did against Wilson earlier...
Wilson 57.0

As I said in earlier posts, the Pats only chance of winning the game was turnovers and STs. McVay and Goff didn't let that happen.

Granted, Goff did not shine last night. He did not however stink it up, he played smart situational football. McVay asked him to do very little after the 24-3. And it makes perfect sense. The only way the Pats get back into that game is with turnovers. McVay knew that and managed the game accordingly. Goff got very defensive, he played not to turn the ball over and it showed in some of his passes, he looked hesitant. I have no problem with that at this point in his development. It was a huge game to get under his belt, and he didn't want to screw up. At that point, you run the clock as much as possible and don't turn the ball over. Thats smart football. Thats actually how Belichick would have played it with a young Brady. Just go back and look at Brady's stats when he was young and had a great defense, lots of 70 passer ratings.

Overall, I'm happy with how Goff performed last night. But, hey, I'm a realist, and a big picture guy. We beat the Pats on both sides of the ball. Great win, and Goff did his part. Let the naysayers nickpik Goff all they want, I get it, they won't be happy unless Goff plays like an elite QB.

max wrote:Here's what the Pats D has done against QBs the last 3 weeks....
Passer ratings:
Murray 67.0
Herbert 43.7
Goff 74.5

And here's what the did against Wilson earlier...
Wilson 57.0

As I said in earlier posts, the Pats only chance of winning the game was turnovers and STs. McVay and Goff didn't let that happen.

Granted, Goff did not shine last night. He did not however stink it up, he played smart situational football. McVay asked him to do very little after the 24-3. And it makes perfect sense. The only way the Pats get back into that game is with turnovers. McVay knew that and managed the game accordingly. Goff got very defensive, he played not to turn the ball over and it showed in some of his passes, he looked hesitant. I have no problem with that at this point in his development. It was a huge game to get under his belt, and he didn't want to screw up. At that point, you run the clock as much as possible and don't turn the ball over. Thats smart football. Thats actually how Belichick would have played it with a young Brady. Just go back and look at Brady's stats when he was young and had a great defense, lots of 70 passer ratings.

Overall, I'm happy with how Goff performed last night. But, hey, I'm a realist, and a big picture guy. We beat the Pats on both sides of the ball. Great win, and Goff did his part. Let the naysayers nickpik Goff all they want, I get it, they won't be happy unless Goff plays like an elite QB.

He threw only 25 passes last night. That's the 9th time that's happened (or less) under McVay and the Rams are 7-2. It's only the second time (in those games) when we had at least 150 yards rushing, the other being the 42-7 thrashing of Seattle in December 2017. He threw a couple of dimes when we needed him to, one coming out of our end zone.

But I was happy as a pig in shit when I saw 2 TEs over and over and over again. We punched New England in the mouth, the nose, the eyes.....if it were a heavy weight fight, the ref would have called it.

Goff became the classic game manager last night. The Rams became a different team from what we're accustomed to. I'm good with that. I know Goff is capable of making plays. But its nice he can manage a game when the running game and defense are playing so well. I thought that INT shoulda been a fumble. And maybe Woods was down by contact. That probably changes the rating quite a bit.

snackdaddy wrote:Goff became the classic game manager last night. The Rams became a different team from what we're accustomed to. I'm good with that. I know Goff is capable of making plays. But its nice he can manage a game when the running game and defense are playing so well. I thought that INT shoulda been a fumble. And maybe Woods was down by contact. That probably changes the rating quite a bit.

Does last nights game present new problems for opponents game planning for our offense? 2 TE is certainly going to indicate a run.

PARAM wrote:Does last nights game present new problems for opponents game planning for our offense? 2 TE is certainly going to indicate a run.

Both our TE's are receiving threats too. McVay can devise plays to throw out of that set. Not knowing if its a pass or a run would really make things tough for defenses.

PARAM wrote:He threw only 25 passes last night. That's the 9th time that's happened (or less) under McVay and the Rams are 7-2. It's only the second time (in those games) when we had at least 150 yards rushing, the other being the 42-7 thrashing of Seattle in December 2017. He threw a couple of dimes when we needed him to, one coming out of our end zone.

But I was happy as a pig in shit when I saw 2 TEs over and over and over again. We punched New England in the mouth, the nose, the eyes.....if it were a heavy weight fight, the ref would have called it.

Here's what I saw as the game winner. The critical point was the Rams leading 17-3 getting the ball on their own 10 yard line early in the 3rd quarter.

Goff engineered a 90 yard drive capped by a pinpoint dart to Kupp for the TD. It was almost all Akers running on that drive, but Goff played error free completing 4 of 4 passes, converting 4th down on a sneak, and getting the extremely disciplined Pats D to jump on 4th down near the goal line. That made it 24-3 and the game was essentially over. Even Belichick said as much.

At that point, it was all about not letting the Pats back in the game by doing something stupid. And simply letting the defense shine against a vastly inferior Pats offense.

I wasn't looking for Goff to do anything except not turn the ball over at that point. And he played it exactly the way I expected and hoped.

snackdaddy wrote:Both our TE's are receiving threats too. McVay can devise plays to throw out of that set. Not knowing if its a pass or a run would really make things tough for defenses.

Does anybody remember early in the 4th quarter (real early our 2nd possession of the half) after a short Akers run to make it 3rd and 5, the camera went to the Rams sideline as the Rams offense was huddling....Donald, Brockers and SeaBass were strapping their helmets on? I knew we were running no matter what the down and distance and they had become our offense for the rest of the game.

PARAM wrote:Does last nights game present new problems for opponents game planning for our offense? 2 TE is certainly going to indicate a run.

Like snack said, you can totally throw out of 12 and our TEs are good receivers. this should also get the backs more involved in the short passing game - check downs, flair routes, and wheel routes, screens too. We now can beat teams in 11 and 12 running and passing - complimentary, balanced, unpredictable. And we have a stifling D.

Heal up, rest up, handle the Jets.

PARAM wrote:Does anybody remember early in the 4th quarter (real early our 2nd possession of the half) after a short Akers run to make it 3rd and 5, the camera went to the Rams sideline as the Rams offense was huddling....Donald, Brockers and SeaBass were strapping their helmets on? I knew we were running no matter what the down and distance and they had become our offense for the rest of the game.

I remember that drive and I remember later where McVay put the ball back on the passing game and it was a mess. I don't think there is confidence in the passing game right now.

Running on 3rd and 5 and looking very much like you'd rather not even risk a passing play in favor of being on defense says a lot about where things are. We are not trying to make plays in the passing game, we are just settling for not making mistakes.

Which is perfectly fine when the running game and defense are doing what they're doing but I hope at some point, the rest of the team playing so well opens up our once dominant passing game.

moklerman wrote:Running on 3rd and 5 and looking very much like you'd rather not even risk a passing play in favor of being on defense says a lot about where things are. We are not trying to make plays in the passing game, we are just settling for not making mistakes.

Shit!! I was hoping we'd get extra credit for beating New England 40-3!!

Yeah it says a lot. When you have a dominant defense why risk anything? No toss sweeps, no screen passes, nothing but handoffs. Just let the defense kick ass. With a 24-3 lead. Smart football if you ask me....

And FWIW, Mokler, you can continue to try but there ain't no piss getting in my cheerios today!! What a win. What a team effort. What a great day in America!!! for Rams fans. But of course, I see you're all over the internet mentioning Goff and how he's being reigned in and how McVay doesn't trust him and how this is a sign of that and that is a sign of this, etc. etc. etc. Any luck with that Mokler?