by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... ml?ana=twtNixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. LouisBrian FeldtGov. Jay Nixon said Tuesday that the state won't sell bonds to help pay for a new $1.11 billion stadium along St. Louis' north Mississippi riverfront until the National Football League commits to playing there.Nixon, who was in St. Louis Tuesday to announce a new headquarters for World Wide Technology at Westport Plaza, said a new stadium won’t be built “until we have a team sitting across from us signing a long-term lease.”Seventy-five percent of Missouri House members have said they oppose funding the stadium without a public or legislative vote, with some threatening not to approve bond payments.Stadium proponents in St. Louis, Oakland and San Diego — two other cities looking to keep their respective NFL teams — have until Dec. 30 to make their final proposal to the NFL. League owners are then likely to vote Jan. 12-13 whether to allow the Rams, Raiders, Chargers — or some combination of teams — to move to the Los Angeles market.Nixon said no proposal has been handed over yet, but he expects to make the deadline.The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL.Paired with the state’s commitment to issue bonds and allocate tax credits, the $560.4 million public portion of the project is now in place, though Rams owner Stan Kroenke would have to agree to any deal if he is blocked from moving to Inglewood, California, where he’s planning to build a $2 billion stadium.All public funding is contingent on a $550 million investment from the league and a team. Local stadium proponents are relying on $300 million from the NFL’s G4 loan program, though the NFL has committed that much just once: for MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, home of the New York Giants and New York Jets.“I think we’ve shown the NFL we want to remain an NFL city,” Nixon said. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Ramfan46 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 123 Joined: Jul 11 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #2 His cute little way to avoid the issue with Schaaf and the bonds. Just another little tid bid Kroenke can use against the Riverfloat dream. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #3 Elvis wrote:http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2015/12/22/nixon-state-bonds-wont-be-sold-until-nfl-commits.html?ana=twtNixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. LouisBrian FeldtNixon said no proposal has been handed over yet, but he expects to make the deadline.Paired with the state’s commitment to issue bonds and allocate tax credits, the $560.4 million public portion of the project is now in place, though Rams owner Stan Kroenke would have to agree to any deal if he is blocked from moving to Inglewood, California, where he’s planning to build a $2 billion stadium.All public funding is contingent on a $550 million investment from the league and a team. Local stadium proponents are relying on $300 million from the NFL’s G4 loan program, though the NFL has committed that much just once: for MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, home of the New York Giants and New York Jets.“I think we’ve shown the NFL we want to remain an NFL city,” Nixon said.He expects. Sounds pretty uncertain.The other part they're still taking credit for the PSL's. by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #4 Exactly Ripper. The STL proposal is such a joke. 360 M of the 550 M that STL counts as public money should be counted as owner/team money/contribution. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #5 So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds? ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by bluecoconuts 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #6 max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #7 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.The RSA bonds aren't obligations of the state and it would be up to the ratings agencies if they would hold the state accountable for a default. by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Ramfan46 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 123 Joined: Jul 11 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #2 His cute little way to avoid the issue with Schaaf and the bonds. Just another little tid bid Kroenke can use against the Riverfloat dream. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #3 Elvis wrote:http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2015/12/22/nixon-state-bonds-wont-be-sold-until-nfl-commits.html?ana=twtNixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. LouisBrian FeldtNixon said no proposal has been handed over yet, but he expects to make the deadline.Paired with the state’s commitment to issue bonds and allocate tax credits, the $560.4 million public portion of the project is now in place, though Rams owner Stan Kroenke would have to agree to any deal if he is blocked from moving to Inglewood, California, where he’s planning to build a $2 billion stadium.All public funding is contingent on a $550 million investment from the league and a team. Local stadium proponents are relying on $300 million from the NFL’s G4 loan program, though the NFL has committed that much just once: for MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, home of the New York Giants and New York Jets.“I think we’ve shown the NFL we want to remain an NFL city,” Nixon said.He expects. Sounds pretty uncertain.The other part they're still taking credit for the PSL's. by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #4 Exactly Ripper. The STL proposal is such a joke. 360 M of the 550 M that STL counts as public money should be counted as owner/team money/contribution. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #5 So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds? ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by bluecoconuts 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #6 max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #7 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.The RSA bonds aren't obligations of the state and it would be up to the ratings agencies if they would hold the state accountable for a default. by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #3 Elvis wrote:http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2015/12/22/nixon-state-bonds-wont-be-sold-until-nfl-commits.html?ana=twtNixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. LouisBrian FeldtNixon said no proposal has been handed over yet, but he expects to make the deadline.Paired with the state’s commitment to issue bonds and allocate tax credits, the $560.4 million public portion of the project is now in place, though Rams owner Stan Kroenke would have to agree to any deal if he is blocked from moving to Inglewood, California, where he’s planning to build a $2 billion stadium.All public funding is contingent on a $550 million investment from the league and a team. Local stadium proponents are relying on $300 million from the NFL’s G4 loan program, though the NFL has committed that much just once: for MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, home of the New York Giants and New York Jets.“I think we’ve shown the NFL we want to remain an NFL city,” Nixon said.He expects. Sounds pretty uncertain.The other part they're still taking credit for the PSL's. by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #4 Exactly Ripper. The STL proposal is such a joke. 360 M of the 550 M that STL counts as public money should be counted as owner/team money/contribution. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #5 So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds? ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by bluecoconuts 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #6 max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #7 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.The RSA bonds aren't obligations of the state and it would be up to the ratings agencies if they would hold the state accountable for a default. by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #4 Exactly Ripper. The STL proposal is such a joke. 360 M of the 550 M that STL counts as public money should be counted as owner/team money/contribution. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #5 So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds? ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by bluecoconuts 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #6 max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #7 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.The RSA bonds aren't obligations of the state and it would be up to the ratings agencies if they would hold the state accountable for a default. by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #5 So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds? ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by bluecoconuts 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #6 max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #7 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.The RSA bonds aren't obligations of the state and it would be up to the ratings agencies if they would hold the state accountable for a default. by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025
by bluecoconuts 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #6 max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well. by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #7 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.The RSA bonds aren't obligations of the state and it would be up to the ratings agencies if they would hold the state accountable for a default. by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025
by The Ripper 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #7 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.The RSA bonds aren't obligations of the state and it would be up to the ratings agencies if they would hold the state accountable for a default. by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025
by azramsfan93 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #8 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Sen. Rob Schaff does not agree with you.He say, unequivocally, that the legislature will not pay without a vote. by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #9 bluecoconuts wrote:max wrote:So if I am reading this right, the only upfront money that STL is putting up, without any hangups, is $75M.Is the rest tax money and questionable bonds?Technically yes, but I doubt that the legislature would actually go forward with not paying for the bonds, which is what the Task Force and Nixon have obviously assumed as well.BC, do you assume then there will be a vote? Schaff and his 120+ reps and 20+ senators (70+% veto proof majority) have aligned against it. That fact has to take the A out actionable don't you think?edit: What AZ said. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 15 posts Jul 11 2025
by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Nixon: State bonds won't be sold until NFL commits to St. Louis POST #10 "The St. Louis Board of Aldermen effectively wrapped up the public financing portion of the stadium Dec. 18 when it voted to approve the city’s commitment, worth $145.4 million, not including interest, plus some $3 million per year in amusement taxes that will go to the NFL."Hold on, wasnt the owner supposed to keep the revenue on amusement tax in return for "rent" more than doubling? Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business