[BuiltRamTough]

[SoCalRam78]

Last week, the offer was terrible, now it's attractive. I guess the state threatening to not sign off on bonds and an offer that is less public money than the recent 50/50 Minnesota split is attractive. Basically, the rest of the NFL just screwed themselves the next time they want a public handout for stadiums. The new benchmark will be a 30/70 split.

I guess the Rams will play in front of 20 k fans a game for eternity.

Not surprised they fucked this up in the end. Billionare owner willing to privately finance a crown jewel type stadium in LA with zero hiccups and the NFL says no thanks. Remain in your terrible market on a low ball offer.

[max]

Billionare owner willing to privately finance a crown jewel type stadium in LA with zero hiccups and the NFL says no thanks. Remain in your terrible market on a low ball offer.

When you put it that way, the NFL looks really stupid.

But haven't they been doing stupid things for a while now?

They have screwed up their product so much, from the officiating, to the rule changes and definitions or lack thereof, to the schedule saturation, to all the penalties and injuries, and then the cheating.

The old guard is in way over their heads.

[dieterbrock]

Which side of the fence does McNair stand?
I thought he was pro-Kroenke?

I never thought the St Louis proposal was ever going to make or break Stan's plans. Carson IMO was the real threat

Birds eye view from me, but I got the feeling that the owners want
1) a team in LA
2) all parties as happy as possible

So the way I've seen it, if Carson can happen, they sell the St Louis proposal as being good. If Carson is truly a joke, they sell the St Louis proposal as inadequate.
Its all about saving face

The NFL is and has never been succesful based on smart business practice, moreso its been a success despite itself

[Stranger]

Billionare owner willing to privately finance a crown jewel type stadium in LA with zero hiccups and the NFL says no thanks. Remain in your terrible market on a low ball offer.

When you put it that way, the NFL looks really stupid.

But haven't they been doing stupid things for a while now?

They have screwed up their product so much, from the officiating, to the rule changes and definitions or lack thereof, to the schedule saturation, to all the penalties and injuries, and then the cheating.

The old guard is in way over their heads.

I've argued for years that Goodhell's real objective is to destroy the NFL and American Football. But It's always landed on deaf ears, or worse, on an audience who dismissed this as crazy-talk. Maybe now it doesn't seem so crazy any longer.

[majik]

GO ROGUE!!!!!!

Based on Stan's history do you think he will:

A) Let the Old Guard screw him over and say OK
B) Go rogue and start building in Inglewood and make a crap load of $$$.

[majik]

Kroenke to Committee: If you think the St.Louis proposal is attractive, let Deano or Mark take it.

[RamsFanSince82]

McNair has always been pro Spanos. His opinion isn't really relevant. SK has a lot of ammo against the NFL/LA committee if they threaten to bock the Rams from moving to LA.

[LA RamsFan JSJ]

McNair is also the one who piped up about upping the G4 loan by $100 million before it's even been brought up to the league/owners, isn't he?

[RamsFanSince82]

You're correct. He's the one that offered the additional 100 M to the STL proposal.