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 by max
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

They both said they want nothing to do with Kroenke's offer...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/sport ... ports&_r=1

The San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders remain committed to building a stadium together in Carson, Calif., if the other N.F.L. owners approve their applications to move to the Los Angeles area.

In a letter sent last week to the owners committee overseeing the league’s return to the country’s second largest market, the Chargers’ chairman, Dean Spanos, dismissed an overture by the St. Louis Rams owner E. Stanley Kroenke, who said he was willing to let a second team invest in a rival stadium that he hopes to build in Inglewood, Calif.

“Nothing in Stan’s letter gives me any reason to reconsider my partnership with Mark Davis and our chosen stadium site,” Spanos wrote, referring to the owner of the Raiders. “I firmly believe that the proposal we have jointly made is in the best interests of the entire league and is in complete compliance with the league’s relocation policies.”

Davis sent a nearly identical letter to the Los Angeles committee.

For months, owners have been weighing the merits of the two projects. Kroenke said he would like to build a domed stadium that would be a part of a larger entertainment district in Inglewood, while Spanos and Davis would construct an outdoor stadium in Carson.

In late November, Kroenke wrote to the owners on the Los Angeles committee to say that he would allow a second team to help pay for the costs of building his stadium in return for half the football-related revenue. But the second team would have no say in the design of the stadium or share in any of the profits from other elements of the project.

The letter was viewed by some league executives as an effort to fracture the partnership between Spanos and Davis. The two owners, though, recruited Bob Iger, the chairman of the Walt Disney Company, to help build their stadium, should it win approval.

Relocation applications are expected to be filed next month. The owners could vote on them as soon as Jan. 12, when they meet again in Houston. At the meeting, the owners will also consider efforts by Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis to keep their teams from moving.

According to the league’s relocation guidelines, teams cannot leave their home markets if there is a credible effort by their host city to keep them there. Of the three cities, St. Louis has the most developed plan, which includes a $1 billion stadium on the banks of the Mississippi River.

At least 24 of the owners must approve any application to relocate. While a few owners have expressed a preference for one of the two proposals, most owners remain uncommitted.

 by SoCalRam78
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   SoCal
Pro Bowl

Bear the cross till the bitter end Spanos. Too bad you hitched your wagon on the wrong horse.

 by SoCalRam78
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   SoCal
Pro Bowl

I was under the premise of a grand bargain with money being kicked up to Oakland for a new stadium up there, but given the shady dealings with Carson, SK should just threaten to sue and move anyway and tell Spanos to kiss his ass.

I really don't think ESK has gotten to where he is in life by being pushed over by two f'ing morons.

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

SoCalRam78 wrote:Bear the cross till the bitter end Spanos. Too bad you hitched your wagon on the wrong horse.


Man-Child

 by Elvis
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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SoCalRam78 wrote:I really don't think ESK has gotten to where he is in life by being pushed over by two f'ing morons.


That's my take too...

 by bluecoconuts
9 years 6 months ago
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Ireland   LA Coliseum
Rookie

It'll be interesting to see if owners get a little pissed that Spanos refuses to play ball. I know that I would, but it's hard to figure out how those guys think.

 by max
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

It just doesn't fit that the NFL would have Stan walk away with nothing. And I don't consider them telling him he gets to go somewhere else ahead of another team as any consolation, while he sits in limbo in the dome year-to-year.

They can always throw money at Davis. What can they offer Kroenke besides LA that would be of any real value to him?

The biggest problem with approving Carson next month is that it totally screws Kroenke. The NFL always wants to a show the public a unified front. They can't do that if they screw Kroenke.

All the battles going on right now are fine, they actually keep the 3 cities in competition to provide more money as well as keeping the fans from totally revolting. But when the final decision is made, the NFL will want to walk away with all 3 teams saying they are happy, even if they aren't totally happy. And there is no way Kroenke will walk away happy if he is stuck in STL.

 by Elvis
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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max wrote:It just doesn't fit that the NFL would have Stan walk away with nothing. And I don't consider them telling him he gets to go somewhere else ahead of another team as any consolation, while he sits in limbo in the dome year-to-year.

They can always throw money at Davis. What can they offer Kroenke besides LA that would be of any real value to him?

The biggest problem with approving Carson next month is that it totally screws Kroenke. The NFL always wants to a show the public a unified front. They can't do that if they screw Kroenke.

All the battles going on right now are fine, they actually keep the 3 cities in competition to provide more money as well as keeping the fans from totally revolting. But when the final decision is made, the NFL will want to walk away with all 3 teams saying they are happy, even if they aren't totally happy. And there is no way Kroenke will walk away happy if he is stuck in STL.


Good points.

And why would Kroenke believe them if they told him he was first in line for another major market?

 by max
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
 Joined:  Jun 01 2015
United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:
max wrote:It just doesn't fit that the NFL would have Stan walk away with nothing. And I don't consider them telling him he gets to go somewhere else ahead of another team as any consolation, while he sits in limbo in the dome year-to-year.

They can always throw money at Davis. What can they offer Kroenke besides LA that would be of any real value to him?

The biggest problem with approving Carson next month is that it totally screws Kroenke. The NFL always wants to a show the public a unified front. They can't do that if they screw Kroenke.

All the battles going on right now are fine, they actually keep the 3 cities in competition to provide more money as well as keeping the fans from totally revolting. But when the final decision is made, the NFL will want to walk away with all 3 teams saying they are happy, even if they aren't totally happy. And there is no way Kroenke will walk away happy if he is stuck in STL.


Good points.

And why would Kroenke believe them if they told him he was first in line for another major market?


Exactly. In any business dealing that type of promise has little value if any.

The media guys talk about it, but they either have no business acumen or they are just BSing.

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