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That seems to be needed to break the current deadlock. Roggin reports that Spanos believes that he is on the driver's seat. To Spanos as long as he doesn't think Stan can get 24 votes, he wins because it buys him more time to get a deal done in SD or that his buddies will pick off a few votes to give him 24.

You would think the reports of the NFL Oakland rumblings would make him nervous. Maybe through Grubman or Goddell Spanos needs to be told that the NFL would be powerless to stop Stan from building and that he needs to cut a deal for the good of the league.

In terms of voting process, is a vote required for each team, or are they voting on each stadium? If both are blocked, they all go back for another year? I'm sure the Chargers would like that.

Does there have to be a vote? Can Goodell make this happen without one?

SoCalRam78 wrote:In terms of voting process, is a vote required for each team, or are they voting on each stadium? If both are blocked, they all go back for another year? I'm sure the Chargers would like that.

If no one moves, that should help the Rams and San Diego. Nixon would be out of office so the stick that stirs their pot would be gone. No other politician would go out on that limb.
San Diego gets that vote time. Could solve their problem making Carson moot.
Considering the NFL wants this over, the only thing that makes sense for 2016 is the Rams alone with a private agreement between Spano and Kroenke.

Stranger wrote:Does there have to be a vote? Can Goodell make this happen without one?

Pretty sure no. He can recommend which was stated early and frequently but he has no vote. The owners on the fence might listen to him, but the might listen to that LA committee too.

Who appointed that committee? If it's true the commish is behind CoC, I can't imagine he did considering their alliance with the old money and Spanos. This still makes me ponder.

Let Spanos go to Carson alone and then Stan go rogue.
No chance to get a 2nd team and Spanos has to eat the freight all by himself

NFL wanted 2 teams in LA right??

Remember the childhood saying "cheaters never prosper"? Well in as much as that is not always true in real life, that is the goal and general balance of things. So this collusion, the alleged bribery, the removal of a 20 year old law by the hand picked appointment of Judge Frawley to over turn it, the circumvention of a public vote for funding, the use of eminent domain to obtain the land, the clear history of not keeping their end of a deal, and all of this in a declining economy.
Well I doubt the cheaters will prosper this time. Not in StLoo or in powder blue.

BUT,, if somehow they do, I could see ESK forcing the issue now.
Think about it, with all the crap StL , Fabiani, Richardson, Policy have pulled,, Kroenke looks like the good guy for doing everything right, despite moving his team against the will of StL Rams fans and a lame-duck Governor. Or going rogue in spite of all that.

Thanks HarborCityRams_29

So what if Spanos blocks, gets a delay and SD can't pass a public vote and the riverfront stadium falls apart or Stan just doesn't like the plan and Oakland can't get a deal.

Wouldn't we be in the same position next year?

One thing is for sure, we won't be hearing how influential the LA Committee is anymore. That thing is an embarrassment now.

Stan does whatever he does pretty quietly, probably a lot going on we don't (and won't) know about.

GS is financing Carson and i'm not sure they'll do it with only the Chargers, won't be enough PSL and naming right's money to make it viable for them.

If Stan were to go rogue, especially if he were to start on Inglewood if the owner's cant make a decision, that would all but kill Carson because it depends on PSL and naming rights money which would be a lot less with the Rams and Inglewood in the picture and ahead to boot...

Hacksaw wrote:Remember the childhood saying "cheaters never prosper"? Well in as much as that is not always true in real life, that is the goal and general balance of things. So this collusion, the alleged bribery, the removal of a 20 year old law by the hand picked appointment of Judge Frawley to over turn it, the circumvention of a public vote for funding, the use of eminent domain to obtain the land, the clear history of not keeping their end of a deal, and all of this in a declining economy.
Well I doubt the cheaters will prosper this time. Not in StLoo or in powder blue.

Gov'ts get away with this kind of behavior all of the time. The only diff this time is that there:

1) is a billonare involved who has the acumen and the resources to deal with the shenanigans;
2) are lots of loyal fans watching every move everyone makes and discussing it publicly.

Otherwise, this stuff gets rammed down everyone's throats and the cheaters an their financial backers win, which is what happens the vast majority of the time.