by ramsfan1977 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR Say hello to your LA Rams.http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco ... davis.html by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #2 Wow, NFL as property developer. Makes a lot of sense. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #3 Well, this is news. Quick, someone from Carson needs to squash this rumor.Oh look, Vinny B doing damage control on his twitter. Deny, deny. Heaven forbid something doesn't fit his Carson spiel. by ramsfan1977 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR IMO, Davis has been told to keep the Raiders in Oakland. The league will assist him. I think in the end Chargers will stay in SD in good faith and the Rams only team to LA. by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #5 There's actually people who think the Chargers can pull off Carson alone based on this info and of course Peter King saying the Raiders are a drag on Carson. Wait, what? The Chargers are going to pay the relo fee and be on the hook for a 1.7 billion dollar stadium .. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #6 The National Football League could step in as the developer of a new Oakland Raiders stadium and surrounding development in a plan under discussion by the league and Oakland city officials.The plan, first reported by Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, could help Oakland hit a late-December deadline that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell set last week for Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis to deliver plans to keep NFL teams in their current cities or risk seeing them moveTODD JOHNSON | SAN FRANCISCO BUSINESS TIMESThe Raiders, Chargers and Rams have weighed moves to the Los Angeles market and can file for relocation Jan. 4. NFL owners could vote quickly at meetings Jan. 12-13 in Houston or after the Feb. 7 Super Bowl.The NFL last week set Dec. 28 as the deadline for the three cities to deliver their proposals, but that reportedly was pushed back to Dec. 30. Raiders owner Mark Davis and the Chargers' Dean Spanos have proposed building a new stadium in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke controls a site in Inglewood. During last week's NFL owners meetings, there reportedly were discussions of a team sharing the Inglewood venue, if the Rams win owners' approval to move.At least one team is expected to get the go-ahead to move to Los Angeles. Some sources have suggested that the NFL will punt on the issue of the other teams — possibly the Raiders — until next year, keeping the Raiders at O.co Coliseum for at least one more year.Regardless, the NFL could be the big entity that Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf has suggested could provide security for ground lease payments and game-day revenues from the Raiders that would be used to pay off new stadium bonds. Plus, the NFL would come in as a partner on a planned office, housing, retail and hospitality project — dubbed Coliseum City — that has stymied three other developers, most recently Floyd Kephart's New City Development LLC.Schaaf's pitch to a group of NFL owners last month relied heavily on the economic boom in Oakland and the rest of the Bay Area."I'm generally aware of the NFL's interest in development opportunities in L.A. and other markets," Schaaf told the San Francisco Business Times in an emailed statement Monday morning. "While we have not yet engaged in any specific discussions, we will certainly keep this in mind as we evaluate the options and tools for getting to a responsible proposal that works for all the stakeholders."The NFL has continued to urge us to work directly with the Raiders, which remains our focus."Still, the NFL's reported interest in development beyond a new stadium is surprising. All proposals for a Raiders project have included a loan from the NFL of $200 million to $250 million, on top of a similar investment by the Raiders, but that has left a funding gap of at least $400 million, if officials stick to the Raiders' $900 million estimate for a new stadium.Ancillary development that is part of Coliseum City is needed to attract private investors and keep public money at a minimum, Kephart said. But the NFL's Eric Grubman has generally pooh-poohed larger real estate developments, saying they tend to slow construction of stadiums.That league viewpoint may be evolving in the context of the Bay Area's booming economy, especially since the San Francisco 49ers moved two years ago from Candlestick Park to the new Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. In fact, Schaaf has said that the Raiders could draw in fans — and, presumably, corporate sponsors — who feel their loyalty was spiked by the 49ers' move.Mitchell Ziets, whose New York consulting firm, Tipping Point Sports, is advising Oakland officials, told the SportsBusiness Journal that the Oakland group is "thrilled that the NFL is considering participating in this type of stadium project, where the venue can act as a catalyst for real estate development. The city of Oakland shares this vision and would welcome the NFL's input and participation on the Coliseum site." GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #7 Now wouldn't this and the report that the NFL evaluates the Gnat at $200 to $300MM more than the task force did, seem like a death blow considering there are only 3 weeks left? Sure is a lot of confidence going around in StLoo still. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #2 Wow, NFL as property developer. Makes a lot of sense. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #3 Well, this is news. Quick, someone from Carson needs to squash this rumor.Oh look, Vinny B doing damage control on his twitter. Deny, deny. Heaven forbid something doesn't fit his Carson spiel. by ramsfan1977 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR IMO, Davis has been told to keep the Raiders in Oakland. The league will assist him. I think in the end Chargers will stay in SD in good faith and the Rams only team to LA. by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #5 There's actually people who think the Chargers can pull off Carson alone based on this info and of course Peter King saying the Raiders are a drag on Carson. Wait, what? The Chargers are going to pay the relo fee and be on the hook for a 1.7 billion dollar stadium .. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #6 The National Football League could step in as the developer of a new Oakland Raiders stadium and surrounding development in a plan under discussion by the league and Oakland city officials.The plan, first reported by Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, could help Oakland hit a late-December deadline that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell set last week for Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis to deliver plans to keep NFL teams in their current cities or risk seeing them moveTODD JOHNSON | SAN FRANCISCO BUSINESS TIMESThe Raiders, Chargers and Rams have weighed moves to the Los Angeles market and can file for relocation Jan. 4. NFL owners could vote quickly at meetings Jan. 12-13 in Houston or after the Feb. 7 Super Bowl.The NFL last week set Dec. 28 as the deadline for the three cities to deliver their proposals, but that reportedly was pushed back to Dec. 30. Raiders owner Mark Davis and the Chargers' Dean Spanos have proposed building a new stadium in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke controls a site in Inglewood. During last week's NFL owners meetings, there reportedly were discussions of a team sharing the Inglewood venue, if the Rams win owners' approval to move.At least one team is expected to get the go-ahead to move to Los Angeles. Some sources have suggested that the NFL will punt on the issue of the other teams — possibly the Raiders — until next year, keeping the Raiders at O.co Coliseum for at least one more year.Regardless, the NFL could be the big entity that Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf has suggested could provide security for ground lease payments and game-day revenues from the Raiders that would be used to pay off new stadium bonds. Plus, the NFL would come in as a partner on a planned office, housing, retail and hospitality project — dubbed Coliseum City — that has stymied three other developers, most recently Floyd Kephart's New City Development LLC.Schaaf's pitch to a group of NFL owners last month relied heavily on the economic boom in Oakland and the rest of the Bay Area."I'm generally aware of the NFL's interest in development opportunities in L.A. and other markets," Schaaf told the San Francisco Business Times in an emailed statement Monday morning. "While we have not yet engaged in any specific discussions, we will certainly keep this in mind as we evaluate the options and tools for getting to a responsible proposal that works for all the stakeholders."The NFL has continued to urge us to work directly with the Raiders, which remains our focus."Still, the NFL's reported interest in development beyond a new stadium is surprising. All proposals for a Raiders project have included a loan from the NFL of $200 million to $250 million, on top of a similar investment by the Raiders, but that has left a funding gap of at least $400 million, if officials stick to the Raiders' $900 million estimate for a new stadium.Ancillary development that is part of Coliseum City is needed to attract private investors and keep public money at a minimum, Kephart said. But the NFL's Eric Grubman has generally pooh-poohed larger real estate developments, saying they tend to slow construction of stadiums.That league viewpoint may be evolving in the context of the Bay Area's booming economy, especially since the San Francisco 49ers moved two years ago from Candlestick Park to the new Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. In fact, Schaaf has said that the Raiders could draw in fans — and, presumably, corporate sponsors — who feel their loyalty was spiked by the 49ers' move.Mitchell Ziets, whose New York consulting firm, Tipping Point Sports, is advising Oakland officials, told the SportsBusiness Journal that the Oakland group is "thrilled that the NFL is considering participating in this type of stadium project, where the venue can act as a catalyst for real estate development. The city of Oakland shares this vision and would welcome the NFL's input and participation on the Coliseum site." GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #7 Now wouldn't this and the report that the NFL evaluates the Gnat at $200 to $300MM more than the task force did, seem like a death blow considering there are only 3 weeks left? Sure is a lot of confidence going around in StLoo still. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #3 Well, this is news. Quick, someone from Carson needs to squash this rumor.Oh look, Vinny B doing damage control on his twitter. Deny, deny. Heaven forbid something doesn't fit his Carson spiel. by ramsfan1977 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR IMO, Davis has been told to keep the Raiders in Oakland. The league will assist him. I think in the end Chargers will stay in SD in good faith and the Rams only team to LA. by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #5 There's actually people who think the Chargers can pull off Carson alone based on this info and of course Peter King saying the Raiders are a drag on Carson. Wait, what? The Chargers are going to pay the relo fee and be on the hook for a 1.7 billion dollar stadium .. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #6 The National Football League could step in as the developer of a new Oakland Raiders stadium and surrounding development in a plan under discussion by the league and Oakland city officials.The plan, first reported by Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, could help Oakland hit a late-December deadline that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell set last week for Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis to deliver plans to keep NFL teams in their current cities or risk seeing them moveTODD JOHNSON | SAN FRANCISCO BUSINESS TIMESThe Raiders, Chargers and Rams have weighed moves to the Los Angeles market and can file for relocation Jan. 4. NFL owners could vote quickly at meetings Jan. 12-13 in Houston or after the Feb. 7 Super Bowl.The NFL last week set Dec. 28 as the deadline for the three cities to deliver their proposals, but that reportedly was pushed back to Dec. 30. Raiders owner Mark Davis and the Chargers' Dean Spanos have proposed building a new stadium in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke controls a site in Inglewood. During last week's NFL owners meetings, there reportedly were discussions of a team sharing the Inglewood venue, if the Rams win owners' approval to move.At least one team is expected to get the go-ahead to move to Los Angeles. Some sources have suggested that the NFL will punt on the issue of the other teams — possibly the Raiders — until next year, keeping the Raiders at O.co Coliseum for at least one more year.Regardless, the NFL could be the big entity that Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf has suggested could provide security for ground lease payments and game-day revenues from the Raiders that would be used to pay off new stadium bonds. Plus, the NFL would come in as a partner on a planned office, housing, retail and hospitality project — dubbed Coliseum City — that has stymied three other developers, most recently Floyd Kephart's New City Development LLC.Schaaf's pitch to a group of NFL owners last month relied heavily on the economic boom in Oakland and the rest of the Bay Area."I'm generally aware of the NFL's interest in development opportunities in L.A. and other markets," Schaaf told the San Francisco Business Times in an emailed statement Monday morning. "While we have not yet engaged in any specific discussions, we will certainly keep this in mind as we evaluate the options and tools for getting to a responsible proposal that works for all the stakeholders."The NFL has continued to urge us to work directly with the Raiders, which remains our focus."Still, the NFL's reported interest in development beyond a new stadium is surprising. All proposals for a Raiders project have included a loan from the NFL of $200 million to $250 million, on top of a similar investment by the Raiders, but that has left a funding gap of at least $400 million, if officials stick to the Raiders' $900 million estimate for a new stadium.Ancillary development that is part of Coliseum City is needed to attract private investors and keep public money at a minimum, Kephart said. But the NFL's Eric Grubman has generally pooh-poohed larger real estate developments, saying they tend to slow construction of stadiums.That league viewpoint may be evolving in the context of the Bay Area's booming economy, especially since the San Francisco 49ers moved two years ago from Candlestick Park to the new Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. In fact, Schaaf has said that the Raiders could draw in fans — and, presumably, corporate sponsors — who feel their loyalty was spiked by the 49ers' move.Mitchell Ziets, whose New York consulting firm, Tipping Point Sports, is advising Oakland officials, told the SportsBusiness Journal that the Oakland group is "thrilled that the NFL is considering participating in this type of stadium project, where the venue can act as a catalyst for real estate development. The city of Oakland shares this vision and would welcome the NFL's input and participation on the Coliseum site." GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #7 Now wouldn't this and the report that the NFL evaluates the Gnat at $200 to $300MM more than the task force did, seem like a death blow considering there are only 3 weeks left? Sure is a lot of confidence going around in StLoo still. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by ramsfan1977 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR IMO, Davis has been told to keep the Raiders in Oakland. The league will assist him. I think in the end Chargers will stay in SD in good faith and the Rams only team to LA. by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #5 There's actually people who think the Chargers can pull off Carson alone based on this info and of course Peter King saying the Raiders are a drag on Carson. Wait, what? The Chargers are going to pay the relo fee and be on the hook for a 1.7 billion dollar stadium .. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #6 The National Football League could step in as the developer of a new Oakland Raiders stadium and surrounding development in a plan under discussion by the league and Oakland city officials.The plan, first reported by Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, could help Oakland hit a late-December deadline that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell set last week for Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis to deliver plans to keep NFL teams in their current cities or risk seeing them moveTODD JOHNSON | SAN FRANCISCO BUSINESS TIMESThe Raiders, Chargers and Rams have weighed moves to the Los Angeles market and can file for relocation Jan. 4. NFL owners could vote quickly at meetings Jan. 12-13 in Houston or after the Feb. 7 Super Bowl.The NFL last week set Dec. 28 as the deadline for the three cities to deliver their proposals, but that reportedly was pushed back to Dec. 30. Raiders owner Mark Davis and the Chargers' Dean Spanos have proposed building a new stadium in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke controls a site in Inglewood. During last week's NFL owners meetings, there reportedly were discussions of a team sharing the Inglewood venue, if the Rams win owners' approval to move.At least one team is expected to get the go-ahead to move to Los Angeles. Some sources have suggested that the NFL will punt on the issue of the other teams — possibly the Raiders — until next year, keeping the Raiders at O.co Coliseum for at least one more year.Regardless, the NFL could be the big entity that Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf has suggested could provide security for ground lease payments and game-day revenues from the Raiders that would be used to pay off new stadium bonds. Plus, the NFL would come in as a partner on a planned office, housing, retail and hospitality project — dubbed Coliseum City — that has stymied three other developers, most recently Floyd Kephart's New City Development LLC.Schaaf's pitch to a group of NFL owners last month relied heavily on the economic boom in Oakland and the rest of the Bay Area."I'm generally aware of the NFL's interest in development opportunities in L.A. and other markets," Schaaf told the San Francisco Business Times in an emailed statement Monday morning. "While we have not yet engaged in any specific discussions, we will certainly keep this in mind as we evaluate the options and tools for getting to a responsible proposal that works for all the stakeholders."The NFL has continued to urge us to work directly with the Raiders, which remains our focus."Still, the NFL's reported interest in development beyond a new stadium is surprising. All proposals for a Raiders project have included a loan from the NFL of $200 million to $250 million, on top of a similar investment by the Raiders, but that has left a funding gap of at least $400 million, if officials stick to the Raiders' $900 million estimate for a new stadium.Ancillary development that is part of Coliseum City is needed to attract private investors and keep public money at a minimum, Kephart said. But the NFL's Eric Grubman has generally pooh-poohed larger real estate developments, saying they tend to slow construction of stadiums.That league viewpoint may be evolving in the context of the Bay Area's booming economy, especially since the San Francisco 49ers moved two years ago from Candlestick Park to the new Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. In fact, Schaaf has said that the Raiders could draw in fans — and, presumably, corporate sponsors — who feel their loyalty was spiked by the 49ers' move.Mitchell Ziets, whose New York consulting firm, Tipping Point Sports, is advising Oakland officials, told the SportsBusiness Journal that the Oakland group is "thrilled that the NFL is considering participating in this type of stadium project, where the venue can act as a catalyst for real estate development. The city of Oakland shares this vision and would welcome the NFL's input and participation on the Coliseum site." GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #7 Now wouldn't this and the report that the NFL evaluates the Gnat at $200 to $300MM more than the task force did, seem like a death blow considering there are only 3 weeks left? Sure is a lot of confidence going around in StLoo still. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SoCalRam78 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #5 There's actually people who think the Chargers can pull off Carson alone based on this info and of course Peter King saying the Raiders are a drag on Carson. Wait, what? The Chargers are going to pay the relo fee and be on the hook for a 1.7 billion dollar stadium .. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #6 The National Football League could step in as the developer of a new Oakland Raiders stadium and surrounding development in a plan under discussion by the league and Oakland city officials.The plan, first reported by Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, could help Oakland hit a late-December deadline that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell set last week for Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis to deliver plans to keep NFL teams in their current cities or risk seeing them moveTODD JOHNSON | SAN FRANCISCO BUSINESS TIMESThe Raiders, Chargers and Rams have weighed moves to the Los Angeles market and can file for relocation Jan. 4. NFL owners could vote quickly at meetings Jan. 12-13 in Houston or after the Feb. 7 Super Bowl.The NFL last week set Dec. 28 as the deadline for the three cities to deliver their proposals, but that reportedly was pushed back to Dec. 30. Raiders owner Mark Davis and the Chargers' Dean Spanos have proposed building a new stadium in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke controls a site in Inglewood. During last week's NFL owners meetings, there reportedly were discussions of a team sharing the Inglewood venue, if the Rams win owners' approval to move.At least one team is expected to get the go-ahead to move to Los Angeles. Some sources have suggested that the NFL will punt on the issue of the other teams — possibly the Raiders — until next year, keeping the Raiders at O.co Coliseum for at least one more year.Regardless, the NFL could be the big entity that Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf has suggested could provide security for ground lease payments and game-day revenues from the Raiders that would be used to pay off new stadium bonds. Plus, the NFL would come in as a partner on a planned office, housing, retail and hospitality project — dubbed Coliseum City — that has stymied three other developers, most recently Floyd Kephart's New City Development LLC.Schaaf's pitch to a group of NFL owners last month relied heavily on the economic boom in Oakland and the rest of the Bay Area."I'm generally aware of the NFL's interest in development opportunities in L.A. and other markets," Schaaf told the San Francisco Business Times in an emailed statement Monday morning. "While we have not yet engaged in any specific discussions, we will certainly keep this in mind as we evaluate the options and tools for getting to a responsible proposal that works for all the stakeholders."The NFL has continued to urge us to work directly with the Raiders, which remains our focus."Still, the NFL's reported interest in development beyond a new stadium is surprising. All proposals for a Raiders project have included a loan from the NFL of $200 million to $250 million, on top of a similar investment by the Raiders, but that has left a funding gap of at least $400 million, if officials stick to the Raiders' $900 million estimate for a new stadium.Ancillary development that is part of Coliseum City is needed to attract private investors and keep public money at a minimum, Kephart said. But the NFL's Eric Grubman has generally pooh-poohed larger real estate developments, saying they tend to slow construction of stadiums.That league viewpoint may be evolving in the context of the Bay Area's booming economy, especially since the San Francisco 49ers moved two years ago from Candlestick Park to the new Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. In fact, Schaaf has said that the Raiders could draw in fans — and, presumably, corporate sponsors — who feel their loyalty was spiked by the 49ers' move.Mitchell Ziets, whose New York consulting firm, Tipping Point Sports, is advising Oakland officials, told the SportsBusiness Journal that the Oakland group is "thrilled that the NFL is considering participating in this type of stadium project, where the venue can act as a catalyst for real estate development. The city of Oakland shares this vision and would welcome the NFL's input and participation on the Coliseum site." GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #7 Now wouldn't this and the report that the NFL evaluates the Gnat at $200 to $300MM more than the task force did, seem like a death blow considering there are only 3 weeks left? Sure is a lot of confidence going around in StLoo still. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #6 The National Football League could step in as the developer of a new Oakland Raiders stadium and surrounding development in a plan under discussion by the league and Oakland city officials.The plan, first reported by Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, could help Oakland hit a late-December deadline that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell set last week for Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis to deliver plans to keep NFL teams in their current cities or risk seeing them moveTODD JOHNSON | SAN FRANCISCO BUSINESS TIMESThe Raiders, Chargers and Rams have weighed moves to the Los Angeles market and can file for relocation Jan. 4. NFL owners could vote quickly at meetings Jan. 12-13 in Houston or after the Feb. 7 Super Bowl.The NFL last week set Dec. 28 as the deadline for the three cities to deliver their proposals, but that reportedly was pushed back to Dec. 30. Raiders owner Mark Davis and the Chargers' Dean Spanos have proposed building a new stadium in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke controls a site in Inglewood. During last week's NFL owners meetings, there reportedly were discussions of a team sharing the Inglewood venue, if the Rams win owners' approval to move.At least one team is expected to get the go-ahead to move to Los Angeles. Some sources have suggested that the NFL will punt on the issue of the other teams — possibly the Raiders — until next year, keeping the Raiders at O.co Coliseum for at least one more year.Regardless, the NFL could be the big entity that Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf has suggested could provide security for ground lease payments and game-day revenues from the Raiders that would be used to pay off new stadium bonds. Plus, the NFL would come in as a partner on a planned office, housing, retail and hospitality project — dubbed Coliseum City — that has stymied three other developers, most recently Floyd Kephart's New City Development LLC.Schaaf's pitch to a group of NFL owners last month relied heavily on the economic boom in Oakland and the rest of the Bay Area."I'm generally aware of the NFL's interest in development opportunities in L.A. and other markets," Schaaf told the San Francisco Business Times in an emailed statement Monday morning. "While we have not yet engaged in any specific discussions, we will certainly keep this in mind as we evaluate the options and tools for getting to a responsible proposal that works for all the stakeholders."The NFL has continued to urge us to work directly with the Raiders, which remains our focus."Still, the NFL's reported interest in development beyond a new stadium is surprising. All proposals for a Raiders project have included a loan from the NFL of $200 million to $250 million, on top of a similar investment by the Raiders, but that has left a funding gap of at least $400 million, if officials stick to the Raiders' $900 million estimate for a new stadium.Ancillary development that is part of Coliseum City is needed to attract private investors and keep public money at a minimum, Kephart said. But the NFL's Eric Grubman has generally pooh-poohed larger real estate developments, saying they tend to slow construction of stadiums.That league viewpoint may be evolving in the context of the Bay Area's booming economy, especially since the San Francisco 49ers moved two years ago from Candlestick Park to the new Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. In fact, Schaaf has said that the Raiders could draw in fans — and, presumably, corporate sponsors — who feel their loyalty was spiked by the 49ers' move.Mitchell Ziets, whose New York consulting firm, Tipping Point Sports, is advising Oakland officials, told the SportsBusiness Journal that the Oakland group is "thrilled that the NFL is considering participating in this type of stadium project, where the venue can act as a catalyst for real estate development. The city of Oakland shares this vision and would welcome the NFL's input and participation on the Coliseum site." GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #7 Now wouldn't this and the report that the NFL evaluates the Gnat at $200 to $300MM more than the task force did, seem like a death blow considering there are only 3 weeks left? Sure is a lot of confidence going around in StLoo still. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #7 Now wouldn't this and the report that the NFL evaluates the Gnat at $200 to $300MM more than the task force did, seem like a death blow considering there are only 3 weeks left? Sure is a lot of confidence going around in StLoo still. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025
by snackdaddy 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #8 I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL. by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025
by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #9 snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen? New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 14 posts Jul 10 2025
by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Starting to come together boys!!!! POST #10 Stranger wrote:snackdaddy wrote:I don't think this will deter Spanos. Its not so much he wants LA. Its that he doesn't want the Rams in LA. He'll take a new stadium in SD if the league forces the Rams to stay in STL.No one moves to LA? But why would NFL HQ let that happen?That won't happen. Someone is moving to LA in 2016. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business