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Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by moklerman
My whole Rams outlook right now is being held together by hypotheticals. Rams move to LA, Rams fire Fisher, etc.

So, hypothetically speaking, if the Rams are looking to replace the HC I've been thinking of possible names. One that I hadn't really considered is Mike Shanahan. He's had some great success and some hard times. I guess the hard time are inevitable for most coaches but I don't think the game has necessarily passed him by.

If he demands GM responsibilities then all bets are off but if he's willing to be a HC, then I think he's worth considering. Much of what's worked against him in his recent coaching career has been his QB's. Rookie Cutler, used up McNabb, rookie RGIII, etc. All of these guys are coach killers IMO. What I don't know is how much Shanahan was involved in choosing them.

If it was hubris and Shanahan thought he could just make it work, then I can deal with that. If it was Shanahan hand-picking these guys and it blew up in his face, then that puts us in the Jeff Fisher conversation. I haven't followed Shanahan too closely but my impression is that it was the former.

If so, that means the Rams could bring on Shanahan and have an established, respected, successful coach instead of a neophyte which is fine with me. Who would he bring in as his QB though and who would be available. Warning, I'm going to lose a lot of you now.

Shanahan reportedly really wanted Bradford in the draft when he was the coach of the Redskins. So, if he actually (still)likes him and could get "his" guy, would a Shanahan/Bradford combo be an upgrade for the Rams or a direction you'd want to take?

I'd take it over Fisher/Foles for sure. I'm just done with Fisher and it didn't really take much to lose me starting day one. Sadly, this type of talk is all we've got at this point of the year.

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by ramsfan1977
You might think I am crazy but I know the Rams will go for offensive minded coach. How about Brian Billick? I do not understand how he has not received another shot in the NFL.

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by moklerman
ramsfan1977 wrote:You might think I am crazy but I know the Rams will go for offensive minded coach. How about Brian Billick? I do not understand how he has not received another shot in the NFL.
I think it's because Billick was a product of much better coaches around him. In Minnesota, I think Green(and Randy Moss) was the real reason they had success and in Baltimore, the defense was their cause for success. Billick hasn't ever really established himself as a truly good offensive mind.

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by dieterbrock
I'd sign up for Mike Shanahan in a New York minute
No way has the game passed him by. He got that Deadskins team to the playoffs, and did it with Kirk Cousins at times as well as RGMe

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by bubbaramfan
What I DON'T want is someone who has never been a NFL head coach before. I want someone with an NFL track record. Mike Shanahan woud be a great hire. Ton of experience, sucsessful in Post season and has players respect.

Another experienced guy--Herm Edwards, but maybe the game has passed him by.

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by dieterbrock
Please no on Herman Edwards. The man is a human cliche machine...

The guy I want is on a short list.
Hue Jackson, OC for Cincinatti

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by moklerman
dieterbrock wrote:Please no on Herman Edwards. The man is a human cliche machine...

The guy I want is on a short list.
Hue Jackson, OC for Cincinatti
A lot of people seem to like him but he's always been a guy that I don't have a good feeling about. If the Rams get him I hope my instincts are wrong but in the mean time, I wouldn't go after him.

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by AltiTude Ram
I'm on the side of stability and it's my opinion the Rams are much better than when Fisher took over. Rome wasn't built in a day and the Rams are a better team than they were 4 years ago. They are still the youngest team in the NFL and are getting better. Switching coaches every couple of years has proven to be a bad plan unless you get the right guy. That doesn't happen very often. Stick with the plan and let Fisher get us to the promised land. I know there are many that want change but change doesn't necessarily bring the desired results. I don't want to see this team go through another break down rebuilding 5 year plan. The Rams need stability with the coaching staff and a few players to develop into veterans.

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by AltiTude Ram
Let me add that I went back and watched my DVR of week 4 against ARZ. The Rams looked like they could compete with any team in the league when healthy. Quinn/Long/Olgetree were all healthy and the O-line was starting to come together. Gurley busted out that game and the Rams were all of a sudden in contention. A bunch of injuries later and filling the gaps with young inexperienced players has most blaming the coach. I would suggest for those with that opinion, please go back and watch that game. The season took a turn for the worst after that game but there is no doubt that if healthy that team can compete with anyone.

Re: Mike Shanahan - what say ye?

PostPosted:9 years 7 months ago
by dieterbrock
AltiTude Ram wrote:I'm on the side of stability and it's my opinion the Rams are much better than when Fisher took over. Rome wasn't built in a day and the Rams are a better team than they were 4 years ago. They are still the youngest team in the NFL and are getting better. Switching coaches every couple of years has proven to be a bad plan unless you get the right guy. That doesn't happen very often. Stick with the plan and let Fisher get us to the promised land. I know there are many that want change but change doesn't necessarily bring the desired results. I don't want to see this team go through another break down rebuilding 5 year plan. The Rams need stability with the coaching staff and a few players to develop into veterans.

The only continuity I see with Fisher team is good/great defense and bad/horrible offense
I agree the talent is far superior today then when it was year 1, which is an indictment of Fisher moreso than a feather in his cap. IMO
With Spags team they were 7-8-1 and with his guys they are 4-7
Each year has gotten worse so Im not sure what this continuity is.
There has been only 1 coach in the last 50 years to have 4 straight losing seasons to open his tenure with a team and keep his job. Then he got fired 7 games in to season 7.
He's improved the talent, I'm incredibly grateful for that, but now its time for the next guy to take the team to a higher level