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Bernie takes some interesting liberties with claiming things as facts that are opinions.

Bernie says "the owners 'know' that Kroenke isn't close (in terms of personality) to what the league needs as a front man for a glamorous franchise in Los Angeles."

But Iger who isn't an owner is the guy that all the NFL owners are going to entrust with running their LA franchise. Bernie actually thinks the NFL owners are going to let Iger into their select club, but they don't want Kroenke.

Either Bernie is delusional or he is just pandering to the STL crowd for his own personal gain which is contemptible.

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Bernie Miklasz

Sam has not been co-opted by pro-Kroenke people. He’s independent. I respect him. Nobody’s perfect (as I prove every day.) But Sam’s reporting is trustworthy.

The NFL was/is concerned about the formula — specifically the use of naming-rights money to help fund the city’s share of the stadium cost. The NFL believes that money should go to the team. That’s the prevailing view among the other teams. But Peacock-Blitz and Greg Carey from Goldman Sachs are on it. They didn’t get this far only to give up at the end in response to the NFL expressing concerns. It’s my understanding that the STL task force (and Carey) are working closely with the league to make the necessary adjustments to make the formula acceptable to the NFL. So they’re addressing the concerns and will find a solution.

From the conversations I’ve had with my NFL sources, the Iger entry was a huge deal. It changed the momentum. NFL owners don’t care for Kroenke personally, and enough of them know he doesn’t come close to making a legitimate case for moving the Rams to LA. Enough of them know Dean Spanos (a popular guy) is more deserving of their consideration. They know Kroenke isn’t close (in terms of personality) to what the league needs as a front man for a glamorous franchise in Los Angeles. And enough of them know it would be downright dirty to abandon STL if there’s a legitimate stadium plan. The only advantage Kroenke had was the plan for Inglewood. It was more comprehensive and appealing (and entertainment complex and stadium) than Carson. So it’s almost as if a lot of these owners were holding their noses, thinking that they may have to go with Kroenke because he had the better plan. That’s over. Iger is a rock star to the NFL. And a partner. The head of the most successful entertainment company in the world, a man who can assemble a “dream team” of stadium designers and creative types, and a man who understands what it takes to be successful in LA. Because Iger is imbedded in the LA culture. His vision for Carson trumps Inglewood. As soon as the Iger bombshell resonated, the signals sent to the STL group began to change. The momentum is clearly on our side now — but I say that knowing that (A) we can never trust the NFL; and (B) the stadium deal isn’t finalized. And until it’s finalized and acceptable to the NFL, we remain vulnerable.

Thanks for asking about this…

-B

max wrote:Either Bernie is delusional or he is just pandering to the STL crowd for his own personal gain which is contemptible.

There is your answer right there. Also from a few sources I've read the Iger entry presents ethical problems. It's against the NFL's rules for a person to be a part owner of two teams yet here Iger has an option to be a part owner of two teams. This clause in his deal is something that will have to be resolved before they proceed.

Gee, I wonder where the "Done deal if the aldermen approve the stadium plan." theory comes from. I read this earlier and it basically is what all the PD personalities are sticking to.
It seems to me the folks in St Louis haven't thought this through all the way,, or at least aren't willing to openly admit it.

I'm so ready for this to be over

Laughable assessment by Bernie. But typical. Iger is a contingency deal and what great vision does he have if you move a team without a fan base to LA in the Chargers? He's going to spruce up the Farmer's market. He's going to put Mickey Mouse ears on the Raiders' helmet? He's going to make the Carson design more attractive than Inglewood? Iger is a rock star? Lol.

I guess the owner of the Rams, you know the guy who will front half a billion plus for the Riverfront scam deal, having zero interest in staying in Missouri has no impact. But Iger is now the deciding factor.

But again. All these idiots can do is cheer on Carson, their saving grace. They know Kroenke is done with them. They know the local plan is sub par (though they won't admit it). They know the BofA dislikes the forced proposal. So they have to cheer on the idea that Carson will block Kroenke.

max wrote:Either Bernie is delusional or he is just pandering to the STL crowd for his own personal gain which is contemptible.

I actually believe Bernie is deeply disturbed. Seriously.

Phillip-fucking-Anschutz, has Bernie heard of him? Get real...

This article is the perfect example of the StL narrative in a nut-case-shell. the 'task force is being given more than every opportunity to get their deal together, while missing deadlines and planning to be on title.
BM is giving the fly-over citizens hope. that's a sharp contrast to a few months ago.
Time is running out, deals and cities aren't done. Only one player is ready. Gotta stop the limbo. Spanos is ugly. lol

The PD is hanging their hat on the FAA plant. If it had legs there would be follow up reports, not just a couple re referencing articles.
This just goes to show the level of denial they are in. they cling to any limb they can grasp.

Hacksaw wrote:This article is the perfect example of the StL narrative in a nut-case-shell. the 'task force is being given more than every opportunity to get their deal together, while missing deadlines and planning to be on title.
BM is giving the fly-over citizens hope. that's a sharp contrast to a few months ago.
Time is running out, deals and cities aren't done. Only one player is ready. Gotta stop the limbo. Spanos is ugly. lol

The PD is hanging their hat on the FAA plant. If it had legs there would be follow up reports, not just a couple re referencing articles.
This just goes to show the level of denial they are in. they cling to any limb they can grasp.

We all know the FAA report has no legs. It clearly states that a stadium over 175ft above ground could present problems. Yet the first release of stadium details states it will be 175ft. There is no issue it's all the PD crowd hanging on a prayer.