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I remember Fisher was being interviewed on the radio,,,
One of the talking points were about him playing underneath the center...
Fisher mention "we are working on that... but you still have plenty of QBs playing shotgun... Peyton Manning,,," and he named a few others...

But that was the talking topic,,, around here,, coming from the Air Raid system,,, and they were picking out all of the problems with the Air Raid to being a NFL QB,,, and one of the topics were playing underneath center...

Now if it wasn't a main topic on the news media,,, sorry,,, but I know what I heard...

It was an issue of adapting. And it's not just being under center. It's taking precise drops from center and doing it in rhythm with the proper footwork and mechanics. But lots of guys were shotgun qbs in college, not just Air Raid qbs. So learning that was a real thing. The Rams of course would have confident answers to naive reporters who wondered about things like that. It's not like Goff's case was unique or new when it comes to this one specific thing.

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[Elvis]

Not surprisingly, as spread and air raid QBs proliferate the NFL, the coaches who believe they can't play seem to be leaving the arena...

[aeneas1]

I remember Fisher was being interviewed on the radio,,,
One of the talking points were about him playing underneath the center...
Fisher mention "we are working on that... but you still have plenty of QBs playing shotgun... Peyton Manning,,," and he named a few others...

But that was the talking topic,,, around here,, coming from the Air Raid system,,, and they were picking out all of the problems with the Air Raid to being a NFL QB,,, and one of the topics were playing underneath center...

Now if it wasn't a main topic on the news media,,, sorry,,, but I know what I heard...

you heard right... and fisher wasn't alone in naming a lack of under center play as a prob when pointing to college spread qbs... it's always been a laughable point of view.

[69RamFan]

It was an issue of adapting. And it's not just being under center. It's taking precise drops from center and doing it in rhythm with the proper footwork and mechanics. But lots of guys were shotgun qbs in college, not just Air Raid qbs. So learning that was a real thing. The Rams of course would have confident answers to naive reporters who wondered about things like that. It's not like Goff's case was unique or new when it comes to this one specific thing.

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I never said he had an issue,,,

I am saying that's what the Ney Sayers were talking about on the radio,,, and not just underneath the center,,, other topics coming from the system he came from to the NFL...

Plus I remember talking about this subject on another site,,, so I was saying that shouldn't stop him,,, he can start out as a shotgun QB and work his way into being underneath...

So all I did was put out a stat, on how good he is doing underneath center...
and how quick he has picked it up coming from an Air Raid system...

And stating that he was number two last year at 68% underneath center and this year he is at 72% leading the league....

So Goff is a fast learner and a smart one too...

[sloramfan]

aeneas...well said... laughable..

anyone that comes to the conclusion that a QB that plays shotgun in college, can't play shotgun in the NFL, is talking out their ass...

and those that agree are just as stupid...

and don't tell me they can't take a snap from center and hand off, or throw a pass...

PERIOD!

go rams

slo

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I never said he had an issue

I know. I didn't think you did say that.

[ramsman34]

As far as difficult tasks a QB has to learn and perform at the NFL level, taking a snap under center just isn't one of them. It really about reps. The task itself is not complex at all. Turning one's back to the D as opposed to staring them down would certainly be foreign. But again, with the requisite number of reps, and marrying that to diligent film study to "see" the nuance of coverage shifts durning that .5-1.0 second a QB's back is turned, Any decent QB can master the process; some very quickly. Accuracy, recognizing coverages, reading and manipulating defenses, feeling pressure, pocket awareness, and lower body throwing mechanics are skills that are difficult to master. Some guys have them, others not so much. Goff has them all. I don't know if he would be any "better' had he played at Alabama or any pro-style college system.

And who friggin cares at this point. Sheeesh. I don't care about Mayfield or Allen, or any of them - unless we are playing their team.

But that's just me. I want to enjoy our guy who I think will soon ascend to one of the best in the game. He is already on that trajectory and it is AWESOME!

Goff is just a system QB like Neo was just a battery in The Matrix. No, he is in fact, The One!

[aeneas1]

Lol... okay, QB coach.

It would be even worse if you actually believed that footwork line you're trying to sell as any kind of hurdle.

it's such a "real thing" that you often read about enormously talented qbs who had their nfl careers sabotaged because they simply couldn't figure out how to take a snap and drop back, it's been an epidemic for years, in fact i think sports illustrated did a cover story on the subject not too long ago, yeah right.

meanwhile, back on planet earth, through week 3 - percentage of passes thrown out of the shotgun vs from under center:

[aeneas1]

of course when it comes to guys who throw from under center the most, (goff, ryan, jimmy g-spot, etc.) it has nothing to do with their superior ability to handle that task, instead it simply reflects the play-action heavy schemes they play in.

[ramsman34]

of course when it comes to guys who throw from under center the most, (goff, ryan, jimmy g-spot, etc.) it has nothing to do with their superior ability to handle that task, instead it simply reflects the play-action heavy schemes they play in..

Exactly. They are tasked to be proficient from under center and at turning their back to the D for that split instant. Yet we (and many teams) also run play action with the QB facing the D. My main argument was that as a physical skill, taking a snap from center is a relatively easy thing to learn and master. And, more importantly, that Goff was not remotely hindered by playing in a spread system in college.