by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #91 OldSchool wrote:Come on, Jackson, Whitehurst and Flynn had all failed in previous stops.False by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #92 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Come on, Jackson, Whitehurst and Flynn had all failed in previous stops.FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did. by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #93 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Come on, Jackson, Whitehurst and Flynn had all failed in previous stops.FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the job by Indrid Cold 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #94 dieterbrock wrote: Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobOther than that 6 TD (2 interception, 5 sack) stat line in a 45-41 last game of the season, Flynn had attempted 88 passes in 4 years. Whitehurst hadn't played in 3 years and never attempted a NFL pass before signing with Seattle.Why would you draft a guy No. 1 and pay him that salary to be a franchise QB...and then hold a competition? Seattle drafted a guy in the 3rd round that they hit on big time and who beat out a collection of stiffs. Funny, the Rams drafted a guy in 3rd round immediately after acquiring two QBs that had NFL starting experience... by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #95 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game. by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #96 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Ok Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.Competition by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #97 dieterbrock wrote:The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionI'd almost be willing to bet that unless we trade for, sign, or draft a no brainer starter,, this season there will be a competition for starting QB of the LA Rams. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #92 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Come on, Jackson, Whitehurst and Flynn had all failed in previous stops.FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did. by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #93 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Come on, Jackson, Whitehurst and Flynn had all failed in previous stops.FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the job by Indrid Cold 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #94 dieterbrock wrote: Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobOther than that 6 TD (2 interception, 5 sack) stat line in a 45-41 last game of the season, Flynn had attempted 88 passes in 4 years. Whitehurst hadn't played in 3 years and never attempted a NFL pass before signing with Seattle.Why would you draft a guy No. 1 and pay him that salary to be a franchise QB...and then hold a competition? Seattle drafted a guy in the 3rd round that they hit on big time and who beat out a collection of stiffs. Funny, the Rams drafted a guy in 3rd round immediately after acquiring two QBs that had NFL starting experience... by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #95 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game. by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #96 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Ok Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.Competition by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #97 dieterbrock wrote:The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionI'd almost be willing to bet that unless we trade for, sign, or draft a no brainer starter,, this season there will be a competition for starting QB of the LA Rams. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #93 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Come on, Jackson, Whitehurst and Flynn had all failed in previous stops.FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the job by Indrid Cold 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #94 dieterbrock wrote: Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobOther than that 6 TD (2 interception, 5 sack) stat line in a 45-41 last game of the season, Flynn had attempted 88 passes in 4 years. Whitehurst hadn't played in 3 years and never attempted a NFL pass before signing with Seattle.Why would you draft a guy No. 1 and pay him that salary to be a franchise QB...and then hold a competition? Seattle drafted a guy in the 3rd round that they hit on big time and who beat out a collection of stiffs. Funny, the Rams drafted a guy in 3rd round immediately after acquiring two QBs that had NFL starting experience... by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #95 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game. by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #96 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Ok Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.Competition by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #97 dieterbrock wrote:The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionI'd almost be willing to bet that unless we trade for, sign, or draft a no brainer starter,, this season there will be a competition for starting QB of the LA Rams. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Indrid Cold 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #94 dieterbrock wrote: Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobOther than that 6 TD (2 interception, 5 sack) stat line in a 45-41 last game of the season, Flynn had attempted 88 passes in 4 years. Whitehurst hadn't played in 3 years and never attempted a NFL pass before signing with Seattle.Why would you draft a guy No. 1 and pay him that salary to be a franchise QB...and then hold a competition? Seattle drafted a guy in the 3rd round that they hit on big time and who beat out a collection of stiffs. Funny, the Rams drafted a guy in 3rd round immediately after acquiring two QBs that had NFL starting experience... by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #95 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game. by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #96 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Ok Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.Competition by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #97 dieterbrock wrote:The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionI'd almost be willing to bet that unless we trade for, sign, or draft a no brainer starter,, this season there will be a competition for starting QB of the LA Rams. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #95 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:FalseOk Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game. by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #96 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Ok Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.Competition by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #97 dieterbrock wrote:The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionI'd almost be willing to bet that unless we trade for, sign, or draft a no brainer starter,, this season there will be a competition for starting QB of the LA Rams. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025
by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #96 OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:Ok Flynn hadn't? Jackson lost his starting job in Minnesota to the legend Gus Ferrotte and Whitehurst was so good as a backup that he was out of a job for three years before signing with Seattle. And Flynn was so good he was on three teams the year after losing a job that was handed to him. And after backing up Rodgers in 2014 he's out of a job. All three of them are on par with Keenum, Hill and Clemens. None of them had statistical success that Foles did.Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.Competition by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #97 dieterbrock wrote:The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionI'd almost be willing to bet that unless we trade for, sign, or draft a no brainer starter,, this season there will be a competition for starting QB of the LA Rams. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #97 dieterbrock wrote:The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionI'd almost be willing to bet that unless we trade for, sign, or draft a no brainer starter,, this season there will be a competition for starting QB of the LA Rams. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025
by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #98 I remember thinking Matt Flynn in Seattle was gonna be bad news for us. Didn't get to play much in GB, but when he did, he looked like he could be the real deal.And then when Seattle named Wilson the starter, i thought they were being foolish.How many more things could i have been wrong about? RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025
by OldSchool 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #99 dieterbrock wrote:OldSchool wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Flynn had just thrown 6td in a game, setting the Green Bay team record for td's and passing yardage in a game and was a highly sought after FA. Jackson had just played well in his first year with Seattle 7-7 as starter but they still brought in Flynn AND drafted Wilson. Point is and was, Seattle loaded up on available talent to get the guy they wanted. And only because Carroll allowed for competition at the QB spot was Wilson able to rise above. You want to compare what they've done lately? Irrelevant. Hindsight stuff like that doesn't interest me. Seattle got it right and the Rams haven't.When a team like New England, or the Colts with Manning, the Giants with Eli have an established QB, they can afford to go cheap on the back up. But until you have "the guy" you've got to let guys compete and get guys worth competing. Shaun Hill? Kellen Clemens? Austin Davis? Case Keenum? Foles is the most quality they brought in but as the GM himself said, they made the mistake of just handing him the jobDieter you made my point! You say Seattle got it right yet all three of the chances they took turned out to not work and those three have gone nowhere. The Rams took chances on the players you named and the same thing happened those players didn't work and have gone nowhere. How can Seattle have gotten it right by taken a chance on three backups who didn't work out when the Rams did the same thing but didn't get it right? The only difference with the two franchises is Seattle go lucky with a small 3rd round QB. Their previous attempts at making backups into starters is the same! Flynns 6 td game btw is beaten by Foles and his 7 td game.The only point to be made is that Seattle gave Wilson the chance to win the job. The Rams haven't had competition for the job, its been anointed.And again, Im not understanding why the concept is so hardtop grasp, Flynn was a highly sought after free agent at the time Seattle got him. He was a prize signing. And still and all, they let the 3rd rounder win the job.CompetitionAgree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents. We've all agreed the Rams need a QB competition with what they have one the roster right now. Personally I wish we had a QB that was the unquestioned starter though. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 100 posts Jul 23 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Rams released Long, Laurinaitas, and Cook... POST #100 OldSchool wrote:Agree to disagree I guess, my point was I never thought anybody considered Flynn, Jackson and Whitehurst talented or sought after free agents..Who? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 10 / 10 1 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business