[ramsfan1977]

Interesting stuff. I write proposals for a living and wish the Rams had hired me to help with this. If you're reading Kevin, PM me!

Some good arguments...but very weird mix of logos and pathos and obviously not sent through a professional writer or someone who does document design. Half lawyer speak and half emotional plea. Pretty surprised that a billion dollar business produced something like this...double spaced, other crappy formatting, and containing style and grammatical errors.

A very compelling argument...so don't want derail the joy of this thread...but just surprising how high school term paper this document looks. Really, they had months to work on this and I could have made this look awesome in half a week.

ha ha, no doubt... grammatical errors aside, aesthetically that was indeed a very amateurish and unattractive document presentation... in fact it seems difficult to believe that in this day and age, with so many folks, including nonprofessionals, adept at adobe suite tools, something that looked like this could have been released, it actually looked very '80s, ha ha....

anyway, pretty persuasive argument, especially the part regarding the relative pittance rsa offered for improvements, beginning with $30 million, on top of which rsa asked kroenke to split, crazy if accurate...

The whole process has been very amateurish and unattractive. Starting with Richardson and Mcnair and the St. Louis contingent. End result LA RAMS is all that matters

[SWAdude]

Proposals have an air of advertisement while also being a legal brief.

I found it very well done. And likely constructed by a professional as a presentation.

Hell, all of us could read and understand something very complex as this. For its objectives, I give an A+. The St Louis fans could read this and on other blogs and twitter they are going ballistic haten on Stan. They could understand it too.

[Stranger]

Proposals have an air of advertisement while also being a legal brief.

I found it very well done. And likely constructed by a professional as a presentation.

Hell, all of us could read and understand something very complex as this. For its objectives, I give an A+. The St Louis fans could read this and on other blogs and twitter they are going ballistic haten on Stan. They could understand it too.

Yup, I don't have any probs with the approach. It served it's purpose across a wide & diverse audience. I say the Rams have won in the court of public opinion, except for in those few areas where haters aren't going to change.

[Elvis]

[Stranger]

https://twitter.com/nathanfenno/status/684835059656978433

Nice. Good tweet.

[Hacksaw_64]

Just let me know when "it's in the refrigerator, the butters getting hard and the jellos jiggling". At that time, I'll be happy to take a 15 yard penalty for excessive celebration...

[AltiTude Ram]

They were F'd by their political leadership who signed-on to a lease that they didn't keep. And when given 12yrs to rectify the situation, they double talked, stalled, and corrupted the process. Those people are the victims of old time rust belt politicians who are so crooked it's hard for the public to even comprehend the deceipt.

That's where I'm coming from. I haven't trashed the fans at all and do sympathize. But anyone who took the time to look at what St. Louis did to get the Rams knew it wasn't exactly on the up and up.

St. Louis fans shouldn't be blaming Kroenke, LA fans, Shaw or anyone else. It's their local government that has, once again, screwed up dealings with an NFL team/expansion.

I dont mean to leave anyone out because there's been plenty of LA support getting a smack in the face immediately, but 2 posters I think of are you and Altitude
For years you guys would post stuff about possible move back and would get slammed so hard. And remarkably, neither one of you ever turned around and fought fire with fire. Allowed the name calling, and went about your business. I mean this with the utmost sincerity, the stuff you guys posted and the class in wich you did really had an unbiased chap like me lean towards LA a long time ago.
Especially you Mokler because you're normally a real a-hole when you debate. Haha, just kidding

Thanks for the kind words Dierter. It was tough to bite my tongue sometimes but I tried.

I feel the same about the St. Louis fans. I was sitting in Anaheim stadium on Christmas eve in '94 and thought they would stay. I know how some these fans feel investing and believing they would stay and watching the process go the other way. I feel for the good fans that invested time and emotion for the Rams in St. Louis the past 20 years.

That being said, there are some that I have no sympathy for. You mentioned the name calling and abuse thrown my way and those fans deserve what they get.

[SWAdude]

Proposals have an air of advertisement while also being a legal brief.

I found it very well done. And likely constructed by a professional as a presentation.

Hell, all of us could read and understand something very complex as this. For its objectives, I give an A+. The St Louis fans could read this and on other blogs and twitter they are going ballistic haten on Stan. They could understand it too.

Yup, I don't have any probs with the approach. It served it's purpose across a wide & diverse audience. I say the Rams have won in the court of public opinion, except for in those few areas where haters aren't going to change.

If you read this proposal carefully, you will see it subtly communicating the merits Stan has for an anti-trust lawsuit. Which he wants the owners to weigh as well. He presents facts as his team sees them all the while knowing exposing these facts doesn't just burn but blow up the bridge and its supporting structures in St Louis. In other words, he is stating points that has ruined his business in St. Louis. No matter what bylaws the NFL has for relocation, Stan must be legally given the opportunity to sell his product. That product which has now been extremely damaged in the St Louis market because of the requirement to state cause.

The man is more interested in what 8 million people think in LA, than a few hundred thousand in St. Louis. No court would deny him this opportunity.

This is some serious hard ball Stan is playing. Little wonder the guy wins in business.

[Hacksaw]

Nicely put SWA. I clearly was able to see that he was laying the wood with a story like approach which could be easily digested by disinterested owners without feeling overly threatened. I really interested to see the rebuttal and any sniff of how the LA Spanos committee took it.


This isn't about StLoo anymore. It's about Spanos and Kroenke.
Davis is just along for the ride but might provide that 2nd relo fee and other 8 weeks a season.

[SWAdude]

This isn't about StLoo anymore. It's about Spanos and Kroenke. Davis is just along for the ride but might provide that 2nd relo fee and other 8 weeks a season.

If his ego allows him to.

Many a mans egos have destroyed themselves. We will see.