by AvengerRam 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #91 Looks like its going to happen:ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Washington is planning to remove all Native American imagery. Long overdue, but everything is trending towards Washington owner Dan Snyder finally moving towards a new team name and logo. It's unclear when things will be announced and what the mascot will actually be, but anything is an upgrade. Despite decades worth of ignoring discussions from the Native American community, Snyder was completely against changing his team's name up until the point he was set to lose money from his top team sponsorships. FedEx, who owns the naming rights to Washington's stadium, was the first to publicly request a name change. Since then, Nike, Amazon, and other outlets have pulled Washington merchandise from it's stores. by AvengerRam 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #92 Out of curiosity, I went on GoDaddy and searched "washingtonredtails.com." Its registered - and available for purchase with a minimum bid of $50K.Cybersquatter? by Elvis 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Redskins Name Change POST #93 Deleted the snark/trolling/cancel culture stuff.Take it to GD if you think it's really important... RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #94 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:Out of curiosity, I went on GoDaddy and searched "washingtonredtails.com." Its registered - and available for purchase with a minimum bid of $50K.Cybersquatter?Probably. I think they’re having the same thing in Seattle with their NHL expansion. Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures? by rams74 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #95 St. Loser Fan wrote:Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures?Hence the reason we're stuck with "therams.com". by Rams the Legends live on 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #96 Elvis wrote:Obviously you can make an argument that any and everything is somehow offense to someone and therefore, i guess, nothing should ever be changed. But i don't think that argument gets you very far.Here's how dictionary.com defines redskin:redskin[ red-skin ]noun Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.a contemptuous term used to refer to a North American Indian.This is called the Bellamy salute and is how children used to salute the flag:Things change. Times change. It may be time that Snyder changes his team's name but then again he's vowed never to so i guess i'll believe it when i see it...That is because that salute has become equated to the Nazis. However like the swastika they borrowed it along with several other things and ever ruined it because of their ideology.That salute goes back to Rome it was a customary salute to pay homage to dignitaries. In the case of Caesar the salute would be given and followed by hail Caesar. Hitler as well as Mussolini used iconology, so they took the iconography of past ancient civilizations and rebranded it with their own symbolism and symbolic meaning.Which I hate that they did cause some of it looks really cool but no way now would anyone dare use it or draw it because of the thorough job they did to tying it their ideology and symbolism.They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol. by Hacksaw 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Redskins Name Change POST #97 Rams the Legends live on liked this post Rams the Legends live on wrote: They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol.That and the atrocities they perpetrated during the era they borrowed the icons and practices. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by AvengerRam 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #92 Out of curiosity, I went on GoDaddy and searched "washingtonredtails.com." Its registered - and available for purchase with a minimum bid of $50K.Cybersquatter? by Elvis 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Redskins Name Change POST #93 Deleted the snark/trolling/cancel culture stuff.Take it to GD if you think it's really important... RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #94 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:Out of curiosity, I went on GoDaddy and searched "washingtonredtails.com." Its registered - and available for purchase with a minimum bid of $50K.Cybersquatter?Probably. I think they’re having the same thing in Seattle with their NHL expansion. Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures? by rams74 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #95 St. Loser Fan wrote:Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures?Hence the reason we're stuck with "therams.com". by Rams the Legends live on 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #96 Elvis wrote:Obviously you can make an argument that any and everything is somehow offense to someone and therefore, i guess, nothing should ever be changed. But i don't think that argument gets you very far.Here's how dictionary.com defines redskin:redskin[ red-skin ]noun Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.a contemptuous term used to refer to a North American Indian.This is called the Bellamy salute and is how children used to salute the flag:Things change. Times change. It may be time that Snyder changes his team's name but then again he's vowed never to so i guess i'll believe it when i see it...That is because that salute has become equated to the Nazis. However like the swastika they borrowed it along with several other things and ever ruined it because of their ideology.That salute goes back to Rome it was a customary salute to pay homage to dignitaries. In the case of Caesar the salute would be given and followed by hail Caesar. Hitler as well as Mussolini used iconology, so they took the iconography of past ancient civilizations and rebranded it with their own symbolism and symbolic meaning.Which I hate that they did cause some of it looks really cool but no way now would anyone dare use it or draw it because of the thorough job they did to tying it their ideology and symbolism.They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol. by Hacksaw 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Redskins Name Change POST #97 Rams the Legends live on liked this post Rams the Legends live on wrote: They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol.That and the atrocities they perpetrated during the era they borrowed the icons and practices. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Redskins Name Change POST #93 Deleted the snark/trolling/cancel culture stuff.Take it to GD if you think it's really important... RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #94 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:Out of curiosity, I went on GoDaddy and searched "washingtonredtails.com." Its registered - and available for purchase with a minimum bid of $50K.Cybersquatter?Probably. I think they’re having the same thing in Seattle with their NHL expansion. Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures? by rams74 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #95 St. Loser Fan wrote:Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures?Hence the reason we're stuck with "therams.com". by Rams the Legends live on 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #96 Elvis wrote:Obviously you can make an argument that any and everything is somehow offense to someone and therefore, i guess, nothing should ever be changed. But i don't think that argument gets you very far.Here's how dictionary.com defines redskin:redskin[ red-skin ]noun Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.a contemptuous term used to refer to a North American Indian.This is called the Bellamy salute and is how children used to salute the flag:Things change. Times change. It may be time that Snyder changes his team's name but then again he's vowed never to so i guess i'll believe it when i see it...That is because that salute has become equated to the Nazis. However like the swastika they borrowed it along with several other things and ever ruined it because of their ideology.That salute goes back to Rome it was a customary salute to pay homage to dignitaries. In the case of Caesar the salute would be given and followed by hail Caesar. Hitler as well as Mussolini used iconology, so they took the iconography of past ancient civilizations and rebranded it with their own symbolism and symbolic meaning.Which I hate that they did cause some of it looks really cool but no way now would anyone dare use it or draw it because of the thorough job they did to tying it their ideology and symbolism.They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol. by Hacksaw 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Redskins Name Change POST #97 Rams the Legends live on liked this post Rams the Legends live on wrote: They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol.That and the atrocities they perpetrated during the era they borrowed the icons and practices. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #94 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:Out of curiosity, I went on GoDaddy and searched "washingtonredtails.com." Its registered - and available for purchase with a minimum bid of $50K.Cybersquatter?Probably. I think they’re having the same thing in Seattle with their NHL expansion. Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures? by rams74 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #95 St. Loser Fan wrote:Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures?Hence the reason we're stuck with "therams.com". by Rams the Legends live on 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #96 Elvis wrote:Obviously you can make an argument that any and everything is somehow offense to someone and therefore, i guess, nothing should ever be changed. But i don't think that argument gets you very far.Here's how dictionary.com defines redskin:redskin[ red-skin ]noun Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.a contemptuous term used to refer to a North American Indian.This is called the Bellamy salute and is how children used to salute the flag:Things change. Times change. It may be time that Snyder changes his team's name but then again he's vowed never to so i guess i'll believe it when i see it...That is because that salute has become equated to the Nazis. However like the swastika they borrowed it along with several other things and ever ruined it because of their ideology.That salute goes back to Rome it was a customary salute to pay homage to dignitaries. In the case of Caesar the salute would be given and followed by hail Caesar. Hitler as well as Mussolini used iconology, so they took the iconography of past ancient civilizations and rebranded it with their own symbolism and symbolic meaning.Which I hate that they did cause some of it looks really cool but no way now would anyone dare use it or draw it because of the thorough job they did to tying it their ideology and symbolism.They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol. by Hacksaw 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Redskins Name Change POST #97 Rams the Legends live on liked this post Rams the Legends live on wrote: They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol.That and the atrocities they perpetrated during the era they borrowed the icons and practices. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by rams74 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #95 St. Loser Fan wrote:Plus aren’t some of the good LA Rams urls being held hostage for 7 figures?Hence the reason we're stuck with "therams.com". by Rams the Legends live on 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #96 Elvis wrote:Obviously you can make an argument that any and everything is somehow offense to someone and therefore, i guess, nothing should ever be changed. But i don't think that argument gets you very far.Here's how dictionary.com defines redskin:redskin[ red-skin ]noun Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.a contemptuous term used to refer to a North American Indian.This is called the Bellamy salute and is how children used to salute the flag:Things change. Times change. It may be time that Snyder changes his team's name but then again he's vowed never to so i guess i'll believe it when i see it...That is because that salute has become equated to the Nazis. However like the swastika they borrowed it along with several other things and ever ruined it because of their ideology.That salute goes back to Rome it was a customary salute to pay homage to dignitaries. In the case of Caesar the salute would be given and followed by hail Caesar. Hitler as well as Mussolini used iconology, so they took the iconography of past ancient civilizations and rebranded it with their own symbolism and symbolic meaning.Which I hate that they did cause some of it looks really cool but no way now would anyone dare use it or draw it because of the thorough job they did to tying it their ideology and symbolism.They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol. by Hacksaw 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Redskins Name Change POST #97 Rams the Legends live on liked this post Rams the Legends live on wrote: They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol.That and the atrocities they perpetrated during the era they borrowed the icons and practices. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025
by Rams the Legends live on 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Redskins Name Change POST #96 Elvis wrote:Obviously you can make an argument that any and everything is somehow offense to someone and therefore, i guess, nothing should ever be changed. But i don't think that argument gets you very far.Here's how dictionary.com defines redskin:redskin[ red-skin ]noun Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.a contemptuous term used to refer to a North American Indian.This is called the Bellamy salute and is how children used to salute the flag:Things change. Times change. It may be time that Snyder changes his team's name but then again he's vowed never to so i guess i'll believe it when i see it...That is because that salute has become equated to the Nazis. However like the swastika they borrowed it along with several other things and ever ruined it because of their ideology.That salute goes back to Rome it was a customary salute to pay homage to dignitaries. In the case of Caesar the salute would be given and followed by hail Caesar. Hitler as well as Mussolini used iconology, so they took the iconography of past ancient civilizations and rebranded it with their own symbolism and symbolic meaning.Which I hate that they did cause some of it looks really cool but no way now would anyone dare use it or draw it because of the thorough job they did to tying it their ideology and symbolism.They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol. by Hacksaw 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Redskins Name Change POST #97 Rams the Legends live on liked this post Rams the Legends live on wrote: They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol.That and the atrocities they perpetrated during the era they borrowed the icons and practices. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025
by Hacksaw 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Redskins Name Change POST #97 Rams the Legends live on liked this post Rams the Legends live on wrote: They have removed some really cool icons and even customary and formal practices from any future use because of their devotion to branding something borrowed as their personal symbol.That and the atrocities they perpetrated during the era they borrowed the icons and practices. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025
by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #98 Will0120 wrote:You are so far gone that I don't even know how to respond anymore. Are you even re-reading your posts before submitting it? I am a "segregationist" (whatever the f that even means in this context) because I suggested that you LISTEN to a minority group on an issue pertinent to them? I am a racist because I suggested that you do not speak on behalf of a minority group if you are not part of it? Where do you come up with these gems anyways? Didn't you just say to STFU if I wasn't a part of whatever particular group? That's segregationist. Will0120 wrote:No one said that you have to agree to what the minority group said, just LISTEN with an open mind which you clearly and unfortunately do not have the capacity to do. If you don't agree, that's fine. We can certainly all discuss the topic but for f's sake don't try to reinforce your position by pretending you know what's best and speaking for the minority group. Obviously it's not "fine".Will0120 wrote:Last but not least, Whatever the hell ulterior motive is there for changing a sports team name that's offensive to the First Nations aka your so called "special interest group" (that is insulting as hell btw. I'd be supremely insulted if I was First Nations)?So, when you speak on their behalf it's okay? Will0120 wrote:Are the First Nations revenue sharing in the new team merchandise being sold or something now? The First Nations is simply trying to right a wrong that literally have NO IMPACT on your day to day life. Good for them and let them I say. Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash. As far as the impact on my day to day life, I say that it does have an impact. This isn't just about the Redskins. It is the principle involved and that principle will lead to more forced changes. Buccaneers, Raiders, Vikings...they'll have targets on them soon. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025
by St. Loser Fan 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #99 TOPIC AUTHOR Last edited by St. Loser Fan on Jul 09 2020, edited 1 time in total. moklerman wrote:Snyder and the Redskins started a foundation and donated millions to various tribes before tribes started refusing to associate with the team over potential backlash.If that's how you want to spin it, sure.The Quechan Tribe in Yuma, Arizona, for example, said it turned down a "blank check" from the WROAF that would have constructed a skate park on the Fort Yuma Reservation."We know bribe money when we see it," the Quechans said in a statement at the time.Others were more open to the foundation's offers. The Chippewa Cree Tribe in Montana, for example, allowed the WROAF to finance the construction of a burgundy-and-gold playground on the Rocky Boy's Reservation. According to tax records, the tribe received more than $960,000 from the foundation in a three-year span beginning with the 2015 fiscal year.Like other tribes, though, the Chippewa Cree saw that money dry up during the 2018 fiscal year. It did not receive any grants or contributions in that time period, according to the WROAF's tax filing. (A message left with the tribe's finance department Tuesday was not immediately returned.)Mittendorf said he found the WROAF's recent financial records to be both bleak and unusual. He noted that the foundation had just $1,000 in cash on hand in February 2018, for example, and that its spending on staff relative to grants and donations was "pretty skewed" — especially in the 2019 fiscal year, when it did not issue any grants or donations at all."It’s certainly rare for a private foundation to not engage in grant-making, and not engage in direct charitable activity, either," Mittendorf said. by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 473 posts Jul 05 2025
by moklerman 4 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Redskins Name Change POST #100 Dick84 wrote:Lol.. they overreaction and paranoia and inability to stand back and go.. "yeah.. we can move on from the Redskins.. " is just funny, at this point. The fact that you think it impacts you shows a deep, DEEP fear of the changes that are happening and coming in America. And.. guess what.. change is constant. Learn to learn, listen and grow.How many times do I have to say that it isn't specifically about the Redskins? This is about an NFL owner being forced to make a change that he doesn't want to make. This is about setting that precedent. Once Snyder is strong-armed into doing what someone else wants him to do, do you honestly believe that power won't be used again? FedEx, Nike and Amazon are all colluding to force the NFL to do it's bidding(all under the guise of righteousness). If you don't think they'll wield that power again, you're downright naive. This isn't the first time we've seen change in the name of "cause X" then lead to abuse and misuse. Reply 10 / 48 1 10 48 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business