by aeneas1 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #81 R4L liked this post at the start of the 2019 season:top 10 teams in available cap - 4 made the postseason.bottom 10 teams in available cap - 4 made the postseason.top 3 teams in available cap - none made the postseason. 1 by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #82 TOPIC AUTHOR What was the very bottom team? That's where the Rams are right now. by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13215 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #83 Indrid Cold wrote:We aren't in cap hell in 2021 at all. $65M on a projected $209M cap (Spotrac). Could re-sign Ramsey, Cupp, JJ and still have $20M left. Plenty of contracts to get out of next year, too, with savings. Cap also may go to as high as $230M with new TV deals.Yeah, I was just checking who was "signed" through next year and who was "unsigned". Didn't seem too bad (certainly not "trouble"), save for a few "key" players, which we should be able to sign with the cap room, moves to make more and cap increase. Our CB position is going to need to be addressed. Ramsey of course. Hill and Darius Williams are UFA. WR's Kupp and Reynolds. TE's Everett and Mundt. RB Brown. JJ, Ebukam, Smart and Howard on defense. Blythe, Brewer and Demby from the OL. And LS McQuaide. Everybody else is signed or under control with an offer. That's not to mention Franchise Tag. Makes me think they'll get a CB, RB, WR, S in the draft for sure. OL, Edge. Maybe LB or TE?Take a look at the list under contract for 2021 and it doesn't resemble trouble. Of the guys who aren't, we have to figure they sign Ramsey and Kupp. That isn't going to take 58 mil. Hill, Everett, JJ, Brown, Reynolds, Williams would eat up some more and we have to figure we only keep the ones who play good, but don't outplay their value. Ebukam? Smart? Even less. Will we keep any of Blythe, Brewer or Demby (if Demby even makes it though this camp?). We only know McQuaide's name because we're Ram fans but that means he's good. That doesn't look like cap disaster to me and keep in mind we'll have 2 draft classes before those contracts run out.Mismanagement my ass. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #84 Last edited by CanuckRightWinger on Apr 17 2020, edited 1 time in total. R4L liked this post So, per Cameron DaSilva, 04/17/2020 3.31 PMThe good news: Rams Rookie Draft Pool is small at only $5.876 million. The bad news: Rams presently over the cap by "about $5.3 million. Bonus Bad News: DaSilva confirms that Leonardo Di Floyd is NOT signed for his $10 million OneYearProveItDeal. but not to worry, as DaSilva reports:"Of course the front office will figure it out and get back under the cap, but it won't happen without some cuts, trades and restructures--or all of the above."Well, at least DaSilva did the "give it to me straight Doc....I can take it" version of what's coming prior to this 2020 season.........instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! 1 by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #85 Well....I see somebody still gets an allowance! Look, the debt does not disappear if Demoff & Co decide to break the Jared Goff and Aaron Donald Restructure PiggyBanks right now......the debt just gets pushed into future years. Grown-ups (and economists) call it "kicking the can down the road."Anybody remember that Presser that Snead was giving back in January or February and the female reporter asked him about restructuring Goff's deal and he gave that smug answer about how undesirable that move would be because you just limit yourself in future for some easy financial elbow room today.I remember thinking at the time......this guy is either really good at hiring alot of really fucking cheap players by the boatload.....or he is bullshitting the little lady.Turns out it was the latter. The Rams will have to restructure both Goff and AD I suspect.....and don't be surprised if Rob Havenstein has a new Postal Code in his very near future. We're short $21.176 Million bucks sportsfans.....no big deal, right?? Maybe Mrs. Kroenke can have a bake sale!!?? Oh.....and I'm not saying Los Ramos cannot go 13-3 in 2020 and win the NFC West. I am just saying that Kroenke's numbers guys have not put us in the best financial position to do that. Oh, and when I say Kroenke's numbers guys "shat the bed" it does NOT mean that the Rams will be shit next year......as some tried to earlier project. It just means that compared to their opposite numbers on 31 other NFL teams, they did not overachieve! Go Rams in 2020!!! by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #86 TOPIC AUTHOR I was curious about how the very LAST team in salary cap space did in previous years. Over the cap only uses present and future numbers but Sportrac goes backward but only 2019 without a subscription.https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2019/Anyway, last year's worst team and, like the Rams, the only team in the red that year, the Washington Redskin. Who then went 3-13. by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #87 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:So.. the Patriots are going 3-13 this year? Because they've got more dead cap.Are you asking me? Because I was very clear about saying "cap space". Would you care to respond to my point before changing the subject? by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #82 TOPIC AUTHOR What was the very bottom team? That's where the Rams are right now. by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13215 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #83 Indrid Cold wrote:We aren't in cap hell in 2021 at all. $65M on a projected $209M cap (Spotrac). Could re-sign Ramsey, Cupp, JJ and still have $20M left. Plenty of contracts to get out of next year, too, with savings. Cap also may go to as high as $230M with new TV deals.Yeah, I was just checking who was "signed" through next year and who was "unsigned". Didn't seem too bad (certainly not "trouble"), save for a few "key" players, which we should be able to sign with the cap room, moves to make more and cap increase. Our CB position is going to need to be addressed. Ramsey of course. Hill and Darius Williams are UFA. WR's Kupp and Reynolds. TE's Everett and Mundt. RB Brown. JJ, Ebukam, Smart and Howard on defense. Blythe, Brewer and Demby from the OL. And LS McQuaide. Everybody else is signed or under control with an offer. That's not to mention Franchise Tag. Makes me think they'll get a CB, RB, WR, S in the draft for sure. OL, Edge. Maybe LB or TE?Take a look at the list under contract for 2021 and it doesn't resemble trouble. Of the guys who aren't, we have to figure they sign Ramsey and Kupp. That isn't going to take 58 mil. Hill, Everett, JJ, Brown, Reynolds, Williams would eat up some more and we have to figure we only keep the ones who play good, but don't outplay their value. Ebukam? Smart? Even less. Will we keep any of Blythe, Brewer or Demby (if Demby even makes it though this camp?). We only know McQuaide's name because we're Ram fans but that means he's good. That doesn't look like cap disaster to me and keep in mind we'll have 2 draft classes before those contracts run out.Mismanagement my ass. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #84 Last edited by CanuckRightWinger on Apr 17 2020, edited 1 time in total. R4L liked this post So, per Cameron DaSilva, 04/17/2020 3.31 PMThe good news: Rams Rookie Draft Pool is small at only $5.876 million. The bad news: Rams presently over the cap by "about $5.3 million. Bonus Bad News: DaSilva confirms that Leonardo Di Floyd is NOT signed for his $10 million OneYearProveItDeal. but not to worry, as DaSilva reports:"Of course the front office will figure it out and get back under the cap, but it won't happen without some cuts, trades and restructures--or all of the above."Well, at least DaSilva did the "give it to me straight Doc....I can take it" version of what's coming prior to this 2020 season.........instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! 1 by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #85 Well....I see somebody still gets an allowance! Look, the debt does not disappear if Demoff & Co decide to break the Jared Goff and Aaron Donald Restructure PiggyBanks right now......the debt just gets pushed into future years. Grown-ups (and economists) call it "kicking the can down the road."Anybody remember that Presser that Snead was giving back in January or February and the female reporter asked him about restructuring Goff's deal and he gave that smug answer about how undesirable that move would be because you just limit yourself in future for some easy financial elbow room today.I remember thinking at the time......this guy is either really good at hiring alot of really fucking cheap players by the boatload.....or he is bullshitting the little lady.Turns out it was the latter. The Rams will have to restructure both Goff and AD I suspect.....and don't be surprised if Rob Havenstein has a new Postal Code in his very near future. We're short $21.176 Million bucks sportsfans.....no big deal, right?? Maybe Mrs. Kroenke can have a bake sale!!?? Oh.....and I'm not saying Los Ramos cannot go 13-3 in 2020 and win the NFC West. I am just saying that Kroenke's numbers guys have not put us in the best financial position to do that. Oh, and when I say Kroenke's numbers guys "shat the bed" it does NOT mean that the Rams will be shit next year......as some tried to earlier project. It just means that compared to their opposite numbers on 31 other NFL teams, they did not overachieve! Go Rams in 2020!!! by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #86 TOPIC AUTHOR I was curious about how the very LAST team in salary cap space did in previous years. Over the cap only uses present and future numbers but Sportrac goes backward but only 2019 without a subscription.https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2019/Anyway, last year's worst team and, like the Rams, the only team in the red that year, the Washington Redskin. Who then went 3-13. by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #87 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:So.. the Patriots are going 3-13 this year? Because they've got more dead cap.Are you asking me? Because I was very clear about saying "cap space". Would you care to respond to my point before changing the subject? by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13215 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #83 Indrid Cold wrote:We aren't in cap hell in 2021 at all. $65M on a projected $209M cap (Spotrac). Could re-sign Ramsey, Cupp, JJ and still have $20M left. Plenty of contracts to get out of next year, too, with savings. Cap also may go to as high as $230M with new TV deals.Yeah, I was just checking who was "signed" through next year and who was "unsigned". Didn't seem too bad (certainly not "trouble"), save for a few "key" players, which we should be able to sign with the cap room, moves to make more and cap increase. Our CB position is going to need to be addressed. Ramsey of course. Hill and Darius Williams are UFA. WR's Kupp and Reynolds. TE's Everett and Mundt. RB Brown. JJ, Ebukam, Smart and Howard on defense. Blythe, Brewer and Demby from the OL. And LS McQuaide. Everybody else is signed or under control with an offer. That's not to mention Franchise Tag. Makes me think they'll get a CB, RB, WR, S in the draft for sure. OL, Edge. Maybe LB or TE?Take a look at the list under contract for 2021 and it doesn't resemble trouble. Of the guys who aren't, we have to figure they sign Ramsey and Kupp. That isn't going to take 58 mil. Hill, Everett, JJ, Brown, Reynolds, Williams would eat up some more and we have to figure we only keep the ones who play good, but don't outplay their value. Ebukam? Smart? Even less. Will we keep any of Blythe, Brewer or Demby (if Demby even makes it though this camp?). We only know McQuaide's name because we're Ram fans but that means he's good. That doesn't look like cap disaster to me and keep in mind we'll have 2 draft classes before those contracts run out.Mismanagement my ass. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #84 Last edited by CanuckRightWinger on Apr 17 2020, edited 1 time in total. R4L liked this post So, per Cameron DaSilva, 04/17/2020 3.31 PMThe good news: Rams Rookie Draft Pool is small at only $5.876 million. The bad news: Rams presently over the cap by "about $5.3 million. Bonus Bad News: DaSilva confirms that Leonardo Di Floyd is NOT signed for his $10 million OneYearProveItDeal. but not to worry, as DaSilva reports:"Of course the front office will figure it out and get back under the cap, but it won't happen without some cuts, trades and restructures--or all of the above."Well, at least DaSilva did the "give it to me straight Doc....I can take it" version of what's coming prior to this 2020 season.........instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! 1 by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #85 Well....I see somebody still gets an allowance! Look, the debt does not disappear if Demoff & Co decide to break the Jared Goff and Aaron Donald Restructure PiggyBanks right now......the debt just gets pushed into future years. Grown-ups (and economists) call it "kicking the can down the road."Anybody remember that Presser that Snead was giving back in January or February and the female reporter asked him about restructuring Goff's deal and he gave that smug answer about how undesirable that move would be because you just limit yourself in future for some easy financial elbow room today.I remember thinking at the time......this guy is either really good at hiring alot of really fucking cheap players by the boatload.....or he is bullshitting the little lady.Turns out it was the latter. The Rams will have to restructure both Goff and AD I suspect.....and don't be surprised if Rob Havenstein has a new Postal Code in his very near future. We're short $21.176 Million bucks sportsfans.....no big deal, right?? Maybe Mrs. Kroenke can have a bake sale!!?? Oh.....and I'm not saying Los Ramos cannot go 13-3 in 2020 and win the NFC West. I am just saying that Kroenke's numbers guys have not put us in the best financial position to do that. Oh, and when I say Kroenke's numbers guys "shat the bed" it does NOT mean that the Rams will be shit next year......as some tried to earlier project. It just means that compared to their opposite numbers on 31 other NFL teams, they did not overachieve! Go Rams in 2020!!! by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #86 TOPIC AUTHOR I was curious about how the very LAST team in salary cap space did in previous years. Over the cap only uses present and future numbers but Sportrac goes backward but only 2019 without a subscription.https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2019/Anyway, last year's worst team and, like the Rams, the only team in the red that year, the Washington Redskin. Who then went 3-13. by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #87 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:So.. the Patriots are going 3-13 this year? Because they've got more dead cap.Are you asking me? Because I was very clear about saying "cap space". Would you care to respond to my point before changing the subject? by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #84 Last edited by CanuckRightWinger on Apr 17 2020, edited 1 time in total. R4L liked this post So, per Cameron DaSilva, 04/17/2020 3.31 PMThe good news: Rams Rookie Draft Pool is small at only $5.876 million. The bad news: Rams presently over the cap by "about $5.3 million. Bonus Bad News: DaSilva confirms that Leonardo Di Floyd is NOT signed for his $10 million OneYearProveItDeal. but not to worry, as DaSilva reports:"Of course the front office will figure it out and get back under the cap, but it won't happen without some cuts, trades and restructures--or all of the above."Well, at least DaSilva did the "give it to me straight Doc....I can take it" version of what's coming prior to this 2020 season.........instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! 1 by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #85 Well....I see somebody still gets an allowance! Look, the debt does not disappear if Demoff & Co decide to break the Jared Goff and Aaron Donald Restructure PiggyBanks right now......the debt just gets pushed into future years. Grown-ups (and economists) call it "kicking the can down the road."Anybody remember that Presser that Snead was giving back in January or February and the female reporter asked him about restructuring Goff's deal and he gave that smug answer about how undesirable that move would be because you just limit yourself in future for some easy financial elbow room today.I remember thinking at the time......this guy is either really good at hiring alot of really fucking cheap players by the boatload.....or he is bullshitting the little lady.Turns out it was the latter. The Rams will have to restructure both Goff and AD I suspect.....and don't be surprised if Rob Havenstein has a new Postal Code in his very near future. We're short $21.176 Million bucks sportsfans.....no big deal, right?? Maybe Mrs. Kroenke can have a bake sale!!?? Oh.....and I'm not saying Los Ramos cannot go 13-3 in 2020 and win the NFC West. I am just saying that Kroenke's numbers guys have not put us in the best financial position to do that. Oh, and when I say Kroenke's numbers guys "shat the bed" it does NOT mean that the Rams will be shit next year......as some tried to earlier project. It just means that compared to their opposite numbers on 31 other NFL teams, they did not overachieve! Go Rams in 2020!!! by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #86 TOPIC AUTHOR I was curious about how the very LAST team in salary cap space did in previous years. Over the cap only uses present and future numbers but Sportrac goes backward but only 2019 without a subscription.https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2019/Anyway, last year's worst team and, like the Rams, the only team in the red that year, the Washington Redskin. Who then went 3-13. by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #87 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:So.. the Patriots are going 3-13 this year? Because they've got more dead cap.Are you asking me? Because I was very clear about saying "cap space". Would you care to respond to my point before changing the subject? by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by CanuckRightWinger 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #85 Well....I see somebody still gets an allowance! Look, the debt does not disappear if Demoff & Co decide to break the Jared Goff and Aaron Donald Restructure PiggyBanks right now......the debt just gets pushed into future years. Grown-ups (and economists) call it "kicking the can down the road."Anybody remember that Presser that Snead was giving back in January or February and the female reporter asked him about restructuring Goff's deal and he gave that smug answer about how undesirable that move would be because you just limit yourself in future for some easy financial elbow room today.I remember thinking at the time......this guy is either really good at hiring alot of really fucking cheap players by the boatload.....or he is bullshitting the little lady.Turns out it was the latter. The Rams will have to restructure both Goff and AD I suspect.....and don't be surprised if Rob Havenstein has a new Postal Code in his very near future. We're short $21.176 Million bucks sportsfans.....no big deal, right?? Maybe Mrs. Kroenke can have a bake sale!!?? Oh.....and I'm not saying Los Ramos cannot go 13-3 in 2020 and win the NFC West. I am just saying that Kroenke's numbers guys have not put us in the best financial position to do that. Oh, and when I say Kroenke's numbers guys "shat the bed" it does NOT mean that the Rams will be shit next year......as some tried to earlier project. It just means that compared to their opposite numbers on 31 other NFL teams, they did not overachieve! Go Rams in 2020!!! by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #86 TOPIC AUTHOR I was curious about how the very LAST team in salary cap space did in previous years. Over the cap only uses present and future numbers but Sportrac goes backward but only 2019 without a subscription.https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2019/Anyway, last year's worst team and, like the Rams, the only team in the red that year, the Washington Redskin. Who then went 3-13. by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #87 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:So.. the Patriots are going 3-13 this year? Because they've got more dead cap.Are you asking me? Because I was very clear about saying "cap space". Would you care to respond to my point before changing the subject? by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025
by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #86 TOPIC AUTHOR I was curious about how the very LAST team in salary cap space did in previous years. Over the cap only uses present and future numbers but Sportrac goes backward but only 2019 without a subscription.https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2019/Anyway, last year's worst team and, like the Rams, the only team in the red that year, the Washington Redskin. Who then went 3-13. by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #87 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:So.. the Patriots are going 3-13 this year? Because they've got more dead cap.Are you asking me? Because I was very clear about saying "cap space". Would you care to respond to my point before changing the subject? by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025
by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #87 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:So.. the Patriots are going 3-13 this year? Because they've got more dead cap.Are you asking me? Because I was very clear about saying "cap space". Would you care to respond to my point before changing the subject? by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025
by moklerman 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #88 TOPIC AUTHOR Dick84 wrote:Would you like to clarify what you're talking about when you say, "cap space"? Because... we're at a point in time where that doesn't actually mean anything. Some contracts haven't been signed and the Rams haven't adjusted anything. Or.. lemme guess.. you think that Over the Cap number is a "real" number of some sort?Again, I clearly presented what I was showing. Those are the numbers that are out there that I could find. I wholeheartedly encourage you to show the "real" numbers if there better links that I couldn't find.A1 offered that the "bottom 10" and "top 10" in salary cap space varied in results and I wanted to see what the dead last team did in results. I could only find the last two years. I don't know how to express it any more clearly than that. by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025
by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #89 CanuckRightWinger, R4L, Elvis liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:...instead of that bait&switch Ram Salary Cap BS of how we're all just acers in 2021. So if we still want to sign the ex-Bears OLB for 2020, and sign our Rookie Class, Demoff merely has to pull $21.176 MILLION USD out of his tookus!!! All true on this year and no one's really arguing we are in crap shape. They do get $5.5M back post June 1 for Gurley. But more moves are coming. It is what it is. Hopefully the team is good this year (either way, it will probably have to do with many things beyond money allocation) and then we're set up to sign our own plus a top tier LT or edge rusher or something next year. It's a good year to take our medicine and the dosage isn't much higher than keeping Gurley and Cooks would have been. The albatross goes away next year, so it's appropriate to focus on that as the positive. 3 by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 134 posts Jul 04 2025
by Indrid Cold 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 972 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: The Mismanagement of the L.A. Rams- Are They Able to Rebound in 2020? POST #90 PARAM, azramsfan93, Elvis liked this post I think some pain to trade Gurley's and Cook's salary for Ramsey's and Kupp's may prove to be a prudent near-term and long-term decision. 3 Reply 9 / 14 1 9 14 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business