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 by TomSlick
7 years 10 months ago
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Italy   Many of us know the feeling of the universe conspiring to bring car and driver together.
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Yeah, I'm not convinced less than 2 weeks is enough time. Hopefully, the guy has been training like a loon, but I'd be pretty careful with him so as to not to get some dumbass lack of conditioning injury.

 by HopHead Ram
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   The Left Coast
Pro Bowl

I actually agree with Vinny on this one. He has zero leverage and if the Rams were going to blink I believe they would have done it already.

 by HopHead Ram
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   The Left Coast
Pro Bowl

Another thought, What if the Defense plays well enough in the say the first couple of games w/o AD on the team. What if scheme alone produces the pressure needed ( I'm not saying in any way that AD can be replaced just by scheme). Would that add pressure to AD's team to maybe blink and get a deal done that may not be acceptable in their eyes currently as they realize the team is moving forward without him. Flipside, what if the Colts just kill the Rams because Tolzein has days to throw and Gore is carving up the middle in the run game, does that cause the Rams to blink?

 by BobCarl
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Bongheadsignor wrote:it's time for Aaron Donald to get home to L.A. and get back to work
that is a cheap ignorant shot by Bonghead ...

Donald is his own $100+ mill lottery ticket ... an injury before he cashes in can flush the $100+ mill down the drain ... Donald has to minimize his chances for that ticket to become worthless. 8 games this season is less than 1% of the cash value of his lottery ticket.

It is time for the Rams to pay up so as to make it worth Donald's while to join the team.

 by BobCarl
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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HopHead Ram wrote:I actually agree with Vinny on this one. He has zero leverage
If the Rams don't pay him, someone else will. Sitting out 8 games won't hurt a payday that another team will give him 4 years from now.

Donald isn't gonna suffer from an 8 game unpaid vacation. His payday will come and he has already been fitted for his gold jacket.

The team, the W/L record, and possibly the MAKING the PLAYOFFS will suffer, and some of the fans will suffer too.... not to mention the of signing future elite Free-Agents will suffer too.

 by TomSlick
7 years 10 months ago
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BobCarl wrote:It is time for the Rams to pay up so as to make it worth Donald's while to join the team.


I don't know what the numbers are, but the RAMS have to be smart about it. There is a limit as to what you can pay one player. Every buck to Donald is one less buck for the rest of the team.

 by BobCarl
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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TomSlick wrote:Every buck to Donald is one less buck for the rest of the team.

yes that is true ...

and what adds fuel to my being pissed about this ... is that by Franchising Tru for $17 mill as opposed to paying someone $7 mill for comparable services there is $10 mill less bucks for Donald

 by Hacksaw
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Me too @BobCarl. This is why I could see them trading other overpaid players like Austin

There's been some bad management of the cap for a few players so perhaps they're just being gun shy not to repeat the same mistake. Of course they know that they don't have as much room as they would like to.
Thing is Donald is in a class of his own.
I'm sure the Rams would pay him what he wants if they had the room to do it.

 by PARAM
7 years 10 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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majik wrote:Tell that to Joe Haden who was to make $11.1M under the CONTRACT the Browns signed him to but the Browns "opted-out" by cutting him. He also loses the $10.4M he was to make next season under his CONTRACT. The article even states the Browns attempted to get him to accept a pay cut. So it's OK for a team to not honor a CONTRACT and renegotiate in the middle of a CONTRACT, but God forbid a player like Donald tries to do the same. Where's the same outrage you have towards Donald.

Just because the CBA is set up that way doesn't make it right. It takes a player of Donald's stature to make a stand not only for him but all his fellow players whom teams go to and tell them to take a pay cut from the CONTRACT we signed you to or we will cut you and get nothing.


It's not "okay". In either case. It is REALITY though. You sign a deal when you're a rookie or a vet, you are under contract. You signed it. It must have been acceptable at that time.

All MLB contracts are guaranteed. They are legit contracts, in the sense of definition. Somebody is injured, they're paid. Somebody is traded the new team takes over their contract OR the old team pays some of it. But though there are plenty of injuries in MLB, they are but a percentage of the number of injuries in the NFL. Injuries are inevitable in the NFL. Baseball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. So what's the answer?

They came up with what they currently have and the union agreed to it. It's not like labor has been hogtied by ownership.

Like I said before, Donald deserves a new deal. He has to do whatever he thinks is necessary to achieve that end. Call it "taking a stand" for the rest. Call it "getting his money". (I lean more towards the latter). In either case the possibility of success would be much better if he had leverage. He has none, short of threatening to walk away from the NFL. They have him for two more years under his rookie deal. They have him another two years under the franchise tag. I give him credit for attempting this in his situation. If he gets it, it will be because he is THE BEST DT in the NFL. And since we know that is probably correct (the best DT), if he doesn't, even the best at what he does will be unsuccessful. What's that say for the rest of the players? Where does it put them?

I hope he gets it, I truly do, so long as he doesn't ruin the salary cap for the Rams. But I don't know if he's going to be successful.

 by /zn/
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   Maine
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BobCarl wrote:yes that is true ...

and what adds fuel to my being pissed about this ... is that by Franchising Tru for $17 mill as opposed to paying someone $7 mill for comparable services there is $10 mill less bucks for Donald


The 2017 cap space numbers don't matter for Donald. They will use 2018 cap space to sign him. Not only does it appear that way just looking at the cap, but, Demoff has directly said so.

Not that I disagree about Tru. IMO it would have been better to sign Jenkins and let Tru walk rather than watch Jenkins walk and tag Tru twice.

But either way, 2017 cap space is not an issue for signing AD.


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