by aeneas1 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #71 dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th... by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #72 Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27. by aeneas1 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #73 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.nick's first game as a pro, which was against dallas in philly, the first time he ever stepped onto an nfl field, as a 23-year-old rookie? 69% completion rate, 85.3 rating... sam? in his 51st game as a pro, against dallas in philly? ouch. must be chip's system? how about sam's first halves against dallas? as a ram, 0 points, 50.0% completion rate, 43 passing yards, 3.58 yards per pass attempt, 58.7 qb rating... as an eagle, 0 points, 55.6% completion rate, 24 passing yards, 2.67 yards per pass attempt, 60.9 qb rating. anyway, as thrilled as i am that the rams finally parted ways with sam, got out from under him (just didn't think he ever showed that he could consistently excel at the nfl level), it really is amazing just how horribly his season in philly has started, absolutely brutal, fans already talking about wanting sanchez (or tebow), after just 2 games, i don't think it could have possibly gone any worse for sam or for those who continue to back him, who believe in him, who have pined for the moment when they can say "aha! see what he can do with a real coach, with a better surrounding cast!", it's been a real kick in the nads i imagine.... the jets? among the leaders in qb pressure and blitzes thru week 2. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #74 who have pined for the moment when they can say "aha!You mean like exactly what you're doing? As far as Dallas in Philly? Well, isn't Chip the only constant the last 3 years? Whether it was Foles, Sanchez or Bradford, for whatever reason the Eagles have struggled at home against Dallas. To that point, why did Foles play so much better as a rookie in his first start compared to the following year during an historic run at QB? Seems inexplicable. I don't have an explanation but there are 3 games in 3 different seasons with 3 different QB's with 3 different WR1's. What do you suppose explains it?Seems pretty reasonable to explore why under Kelly the Eagles have at home always struggled with Dallas. More so than pining that it proves that Bradford isn't and has never been any good. anyway, as thrilled as i am that the rams finally parted ways with samYes, your excitement is quite evident. Unfortunately your passion seems to really be affecting your ability to be objective or even open-minded.I mean, Sam's first halves vs. Dallas? Is that supposed to mean anything? Talk about cherry-picking. What about his 2nd pass attempts on third downs of 4th quarters?What about just his 2nd halves vs. Dallas?2013 - 23/36(63.9%) 197(5.5 ypa) 1/1 75.8 rating2014 - 18/28(64.2%) 200(7.1 ypa) 1/2 67.6 ratingJohnny Unitas-like? No. But the worst football you've ever seen? I think you're resorting to hyperbole to say the least. by Stranger 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #75 I gotta admit that I was one who pined for Bradford excellence, but who is now relieved that he is playing somewhere else. There seems to be lots of reasons to point to in order to justify why he never seems to consistently perform well, but I'm again relieved that I no longer have to participate in that process. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 40508 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #76 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones... RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #77 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey Day by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #72 Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27. by aeneas1 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #73 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.nick's first game as a pro, which was against dallas in philly, the first time he ever stepped onto an nfl field, as a 23-year-old rookie? 69% completion rate, 85.3 rating... sam? in his 51st game as a pro, against dallas in philly? ouch. must be chip's system? how about sam's first halves against dallas? as a ram, 0 points, 50.0% completion rate, 43 passing yards, 3.58 yards per pass attempt, 58.7 qb rating... as an eagle, 0 points, 55.6% completion rate, 24 passing yards, 2.67 yards per pass attempt, 60.9 qb rating. anyway, as thrilled as i am that the rams finally parted ways with sam, got out from under him (just didn't think he ever showed that he could consistently excel at the nfl level), it really is amazing just how horribly his season in philly has started, absolutely brutal, fans already talking about wanting sanchez (or tebow), after just 2 games, i don't think it could have possibly gone any worse for sam or for those who continue to back him, who believe in him, who have pined for the moment when they can say "aha! see what he can do with a real coach, with a better surrounding cast!", it's been a real kick in the nads i imagine.... the jets? among the leaders in qb pressure and blitzes thru week 2. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #74 who have pined for the moment when they can say "aha!You mean like exactly what you're doing? As far as Dallas in Philly? Well, isn't Chip the only constant the last 3 years? Whether it was Foles, Sanchez or Bradford, for whatever reason the Eagles have struggled at home against Dallas. To that point, why did Foles play so much better as a rookie in his first start compared to the following year during an historic run at QB? Seems inexplicable. I don't have an explanation but there are 3 games in 3 different seasons with 3 different QB's with 3 different WR1's. What do you suppose explains it?Seems pretty reasonable to explore why under Kelly the Eagles have at home always struggled with Dallas. More so than pining that it proves that Bradford isn't and has never been any good. anyway, as thrilled as i am that the rams finally parted ways with samYes, your excitement is quite evident. Unfortunately your passion seems to really be affecting your ability to be objective or even open-minded.I mean, Sam's first halves vs. Dallas? Is that supposed to mean anything? Talk about cherry-picking. What about his 2nd pass attempts on third downs of 4th quarters?What about just his 2nd halves vs. Dallas?2013 - 23/36(63.9%) 197(5.5 ypa) 1/1 75.8 rating2014 - 18/28(64.2%) 200(7.1 ypa) 1/2 67.6 ratingJohnny Unitas-like? No. But the worst football you've ever seen? I think you're resorting to hyperbole to say the least. by Stranger 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #75 I gotta admit that I was one who pined for Bradford excellence, but who is now relieved that he is playing somewhere else. There seems to be lots of reasons to point to in order to justify why he never seems to consistently perform well, but I'm again relieved that I no longer have to participate in that process. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 40508 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #76 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones... RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #77 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey Day by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by aeneas1 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #73 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.nick's first game as a pro, which was against dallas in philly, the first time he ever stepped onto an nfl field, as a 23-year-old rookie? 69% completion rate, 85.3 rating... sam? in his 51st game as a pro, against dallas in philly? ouch. must be chip's system? how about sam's first halves against dallas? as a ram, 0 points, 50.0% completion rate, 43 passing yards, 3.58 yards per pass attempt, 58.7 qb rating... as an eagle, 0 points, 55.6% completion rate, 24 passing yards, 2.67 yards per pass attempt, 60.9 qb rating. anyway, as thrilled as i am that the rams finally parted ways with sam, got out from under him (just didn't think he ever showed that he could consistently excel at the nfl level), it really is amazing just how horribly his season in philly has started, absolutely brutal, fans already talking about wanting sanchez (or tebow), after just 2 games, i don't think it could have possibly gone any worse for sam or for those who continue to back him, who believe in him, who have pined for the moment when they can say "aha! see what he can do with a real coach, with a better surrounding cast!", it's been a real kick in the nads i imagine.... the jets? among the leaders in qb pressure and blitzes thru week 2. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #74 who have pined for the moment when they can say "aha!You mean like exactly what you're doing? As far as Dallas in Philly? Well, isn't Chip the only constant the last 3 years? Whether it was Foles, Sanchez or Bradford, for whatever reason the Eagles have struggled at home against Dallas. To that point, why did Foles play so much better as a rookie in his first start compared to the following year during an historic run at QB? Seems inexplicable. I don't have an explanation but there are 3 games in 3 different seasons with 3 different QB's with 3 different WR1's. What do you suppose explains it?Seems pretty reasonable to explore why under Kelly the Eagles have at home always struggled with Dallas. More so than pining that it proves that Bradford isn't and has never been any good. anyway, as thrilled as i am that the rams finally parted ways with samYes, your excitement is quite evident. Unfortunately your passion seems to really be affecting your ability to be objective or even open-minded.I mean, Sam's first halves vs. Dallas? Is that supposed to mean anything? Talk about cherry-picking. What about his 2nd pass attempts on third downs of 4th quarters?What about just his 2nd halves vs. Dallas?2013 - 23/36(63.9%) 197(5.5 ypa) 1/1 75.8 rating2014 - 18/28(64.2%) 200(7.1 ypa) 1/2 67.6 ratingJohnny Unitas-like? No. But the worst football you've ever seen? I think you're resorting to hyperbole to say the least. by Stranger 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #75 I gotta admit that I was one who pined for Bradford excellence, but who is now relieved that he is playing somewhere else. There seems to be lots of reasons to point to in order to justify why he never seems to consistently perform well, but I'm again relieved that I no longer have to participate in that process. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 40508 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #76 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones... RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #77 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey Day by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #74 who have pined for the moment when they can say "aha!You mean like exactly what you're doing? As far as Dallas in Philly? Well, isn't Chip the only constant the last 3 years? Whether it was Foles, Sanchez or Bradford, for whatever reason the Eagles have struggled at home against Dallas. To that point, why did Foles play so much better as a rookie in his first start compared to the following year during an historic run at QB? Seems inexplicable. I don't have an explanation but there are 3 games in 3 different seasons with 3 different QB's with 3 different WR1's. What do you suppose explains it?Seems pretty reasonable to explore why under Kelly the Eagles have at home always struggled with Dallas. More so than pining that it proves that Bradford isn't and has never been any good. anyway, as thrilled as i am that the rams finally parted ways with samYes, your excitement is quite evident. Unfortunately your passion seems to really be affecting your ability to be objective or even open-minded.I mean, Sam's first halves vs. Dallas? Is that supposed to mean anything? Talk about cherry-picking. What about his 2nd pass attempts on third downs of 4th quarters?What about just his 2nd halves vs. Dallas?2013 - 23/36(63.9%) 197(5.5 ypa) 1/1 75.8 rating2014 - 18/28(64.2%) 200(7.1 ypa) 1/2 67.6 ratingJohnny Unitas-like? No. But the worst football you've ever seen? I think you're resorting to hyperbole to say the least. by Stranger 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #75 I gotta admit that I was one who pined for Bradford excellence, but who is now relieved that he is playing somewhere else. There seems to be lots of reasons to point to in order to justify why he never seems to consistently perform well, but I'm again relieved that I no longer have to participate in that process. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 40508 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #76 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones... RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #77 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey Day by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Stranger 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #75 I gotta admit that I was one who pined for Bradford excellence, but who is now relieved that he is playing somewhere else. There seems to be lots of reasons to point to in order to justify why he never seems to consistently perform well, but I'm again relieved that I no longer have to participate in that process. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 40508 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #76 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones... RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #77 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey Day by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025
by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 40508 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #76 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones... RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #77 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey Day by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025
by dieterbrock 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #77 moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey Day by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025
by Hacksaw_64 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #78 aeneas1 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:And if philly were to lose this weekend, and drop to 0-3 I think we'd be kissing that 4th rounder good bye. I mean why would philly let Bradford take half the snaps of they aren't going to make the playoffs?i'm pretty sure that conditional pick was health-based, not suck (benched) based... in other words if sam is healthy enough to play 50% of the snaps, but benched because of poor performance, the rams aren't obligated to give up the 4th...This is an interesting point. Is there any way to get clarification on the 50% snaps obligation? If that pick is in Philly's control by benching Sam and either they think that there is no drop off by playing Sanchez or they are out of the playoff hunt, no way they give up another pick. That second round pick might already sting enough for Philly in the 2016 Draft. They are probably going to look to draft a QB.The best scenario for us, clearly is for the 4th round pick to be health based(SB to remain healthy and no made up injury) and for Philly to implode so we can get a high second round pick. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025
by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #79 dieterbrock wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.So Dallas can play Philly tough in Philly, but they forget and play them crappy in Dallas? Seems like a stretch to me....2013 Foles 17/26 263 yds 2 td 0 int and 124 rating in the season ender in Dallas which IIRC was a game that decided who won division2014 Sanchez 20/29 214 yds 2 td (1 rushing) 102 rating on Turkey DayIt is what it is, as they say. Are you more comfortable just chalking it up to coincidence? If anything, your example of the Eagles playing better in Dallas makes it more confusing. I agree, it doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to struggle at home vs. the Cowboys but there it is. Not only that, it coincides with Kelly becoming HC. I mean, wouldn't most people assume the Eagles would play better at home than at Dallas in these matchups? It doesn't prove anything but IMO, it has to be something more than just coincidence. Especially considering the success the Eagles had against Dallas in Dallas in the same years. by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 87 posts Feb 05 2025
by moklerman 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Foles vs. Bradford POST #80 Elvis wrote:moklerman wrote:Maybe Dallas just knows how to play the Eagles tough in Philly. Even right in the middle of Foles' magical 2013 season, look what he did:11/29(37.9%) 80(2.9 ypa) 0/0 46.2 rating. Cowboys 17 - Eagles 3.Sanchez last year:17/28(60.7%) 252(9.0 ypa) 0/2 60.4 rating. Cowboys 38 - Eagles 27.Maybe. But Bradford needs to start having some good games to not be defined by the bad ones...I agree. Aside from the health issues, the only thing that I wonder about Bradford is why his receivers drop so many passes. And I'm not talking about poor placement or bad throws. The play to end the first game this year for example. Ball hits Matthews right in the hands at eye level. That's right where most receivers want it. But it goes right through his hands and volleyballs up into the air.Just one of those things, right? Not with Bradford. His receivers, regardless of who they've been, seem to drop what appear to be perfectly acceptable passes. Obviously, it has to be something with him but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. He doesn't throw it any harder than Elway, George, Favre, etc. Or even as hard as those guys so it's difficult for me to explain why so many guys are dropping his passes. They're not all bullets that are being dropped either. I really don't get it but it's been a constant throughout Bradford's NFL career."Catchable ball" is an accolade some QB's have so there must be examples of QB's with "less" or "un" catchable passes. Maybe the RPM's Bradford throws with are at just the wrong speed to make a football harder to catch? Like a frequency. It doesn't have to be really high or really low to cause a problem, it just has to be the "precise" frequency. But the biggest thing that's worked against Bradford in his career is lack of continuity. That hasn't been removed as an issue. Reply 8 / 9 1 8 9 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business