[mike schad 1st rd]

Not exactly NFL related, but:

That IS NFL related. I watch Pro Football Talk Monday-Friday from 9 to 11 AM. On NBCSN.

[snackdaddy]

4k by itself isn't a game changer, especially on smaller devices, especially depending on your viewing distance, the real game changer is hdr (high dynamic range), it can be beyond stunning.. thing is hdr is not 4k dependent, it can be accomplished with 1080p as well, but the technology coincided with 4k development so 4k and hdr were rolled out together... samsung and sony talked about offering hdr with their 1080p tvs, but 4k tvs became so popular so fast, no one was buying 1080p when it was time to buy a new tv, so they scrapped the idea... anyway, point is, if they can figure out a way to really take advantage of hdr with nfl broadcasts, it would be really cool.

Watching sports in super duper definition is good. But other programs for me take a little time to get used to. I remember years ago when I switched from the old HD large screen with the huge picture tubes to the new flat screen with really high definition. I took a few weeks to get used to it when I watched regular programming like the crime shows I watch. At first I didn't care for it. It seemed like the soap opera look. Once I got used to it I liked it. But it did take time.

[St. Loser Fan]

Were there fights? Did they have to get the puck outta there?

Way off tangent: but you like hockey fights? I was at this game 28 years ago today. Goalie fight.

[aeneas1]

Watching sports in super duper definition is good. But other programs for me take a little time to get used to. I remember years ago when I switched from the old HD large screen with the huge picture tubes to the new flat screen with really high definition. I took a few weeks to get used to it when I watched regular programming like the crime shows I watch. At first I didn't care for it. It seemed like the soap opera look. Once I got used to it I liked it. But it did take time.

it's really tough to distinguish between 1080p and 4k if you sit more than 6 feet away from a 55"-60" or so screen, which most people do, there are a lot of charts available around the net that break it down.... as mentioned earlier, the real benefit of 4k is hdr, hdr is a game changer, but not all 4k hdr content does hdr justice... that said, depending on the quality of your 4k panel, a 4k tv can still be a lot of fun, very enjoyable, even without the best hdr content, because of the inherent newer tech that offers better brightness, sharpness and colors vs the older tech (1080p).

re the soap opera effect (frame interpolation) - this is a setting on all 4k hdr tvs that is turned on by default when you buy your set.... many people don't realize that it can be easily turned completely off in the settings or, depending on your tv, it can even be controlled in terms of how much of the effect you want, i.e.strength ( hi, low, med, off, etc.).

movie purists of course hate it, in fact scorsese and other hollywooders have made public announcements pleading with people to turn it off.

but i'm not a purist... i love tinkering with the stuff, so much so that when i set up 4k hdr projector i dialed in a setting that included medium strength "soap opera" for some great hdr titles i own, and it looks beyond stunning, it really makes a lot of movies pop, especially sci fi movies (i can watch "oblivion" a gazillion times with this setting).... that said, this effect can, and often does, cause distracting artifacts, especially during scenes with fast moving objects.

[St. Loser Fan]

re the soap opera effect (frame interpolation) - this is a setting on all 4k hdr tvs that is turned on by default when you buy your set.... many people don't realize that it can be easily turned completely off in the settings or, depending on your tv, it can even be controlled in terms of how much of the effect you want, i.e.strength ( hi, low, med, off, etc.).

movie purists of course hate it, in fact scorsese and other hollywooders have made public announcements pleading with people to turn it off.

This is what A1 is talking about:
https://filmmakermode.com/
Video to watch: https://youtu.be/NnCmUXl_FzI

This NY Times article does a pretty good job of explaining it.
\https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/filmmaker-mode-tv-setup/

New Filmmaker Mode Removes Guesswork From TV Setup

Chris Heinonen

Almost any TV you buy today is capable of producing a video image that matches what the director intended when they were making the film, but surprisingly almost no TVs are set up out of the box to do so. Instead most TVs come preset in either an energy-saving mode that’s too dim or a vivid mode that’s wildly exaggerated. You’re expected to shuffle through a variety of picture modes with names like Standard, Sports, Game, Vivid, and Movie and choose which one is “the best.” This year, however, manufacturers such as LG, Samsung, and Vizio are trying to remove the guesswork by including the new Filmmaker Mode, which correctly adjusts the TV’s settings to show a movie “as the filmmaker intended.”

The benefits of Filmmaker Mode
The most important thing that Filmmaker Mode does is to give you the most accurate image your TV can produce. It preserves the TV’s full contrast ratio, so blacks look black and whites look white but fine details remain in shadows and bright highlights. Colors appear rich and accurate, but they aren’t unnaturally vibrant when they shouldn’t be. Movies with a distinct color palette, such as the green-tinted The Matrix and The Social Network, look just like they did in the movie theater.

Filmmaker Mode will make it easy for anyone to get the best image quality from their TV without any extra work or research.

Your TV’s Movie or Cinema picture mode may deliver similar accuracy, but Filmmaker Mode goes one step further by also disabling the extra processing in your TV that can take away from the “film-like” quality of the image on screen. It turns off motion smoothing (commonly called the soap opera effect) so the film’s motion will look more like what you see in a movie theater, not something you shot on a camcorder—and Tom Cruise won’t be mad at you. Artificial image sharpening, which can rob the picture of fine details, is also disabled, as are the video-processing functions that claim to enhance contrast but in reality remove highlight and shadow details. Most of those features sound like they do something to improve the image. But the truth is, although they can improve one aspect of the image, they usually hurt another.

Ultimately, Filmmaker Mode will make it easy for anyone to get the best image quality from their TV without any extra work or research. No longer do you have to figure out the correct picture mode to select or which features to turn on and off.

How does Filmmaker Mode work?
Manufacturers that choose to adopt Filmmaker Mode have some flexibility in how they incorporate it into their TVs. Some may choose only to make it a picture mode that you switch into manually through the TV’s picture settings menu or perhaps via a button on the remote control. But others may include the option to have Filmmaker Mode turn on automatically. The automatic function involves two parts: First, producers embed a digital flag in a piece of video content—a film or a TV show—that basically says “enable Filmmaker Mode.” Then, when a TV that supports Filmmaker Mode receives that flagged signal from a compatible Blu-ray player or streaming service, it automatically engages Filmmaker Mode for that movie or show.

So far we’ve tested one new TV that supports Filmmaker Mode: the LG GX OLED TV. LG gives you the option during setup to have Filmmaker Mode start automatically when the TV sees the flag, and the first time it happens, the TV will ask you if that’s what you want to happen. We imagine Samsung and Vizio will do something similar. However, since the technology is brand-new and no streaming services or Blu-ray players send this information yet, we can’t confirm exactly how it will work for each manufacturer, and you currently have to switch into Filmmaker Mode manually.

Are there drawbacks to Filmmaker Mode?
One problem with Filmmaker Mode is that it’s designed around watching movies in a dark room. With standard dynamic range (SDR) video, it sets the gamma control (which controls how quickly the video signal transitions from dark to light) to a preset called BT1886, which is a good setting for a dark room but might make some shadows too dark in a room with average lighting. Likewise, in some TVs, Filmmaker Mode may turn the TV’s brightness setting to the reference standard of 100 nits for SDR video, which is technically accurate but too dark for most people. These two settings are adjustable, so you can make sure the image has the correct brightness for your room—but having to make adjustments defeats the purpose of Filmmaker Mode. (Unlike SDR video, high dynamic range video is based on a set brightness level that you do not adjust, and Filmmaker Mode tracks that accurately.)

The biggest potential drawback is that you simply won’t like the look of Filmmaker Mode. Some people prefer a picture mode that isn’t completely accurate. For instance, a picture mode with a color temperature (or color of white) that’s overly blue will look brighter, and that’s a desirable trait for some viewers—which is totally fine. It’s your TV, after all. We expect that you’ll have the option to disable the automatic function on all supported TVs.

But for anyone who desires the most accurate image, the addition of Filmmaker Mode will make that accuracy easier than ever to attain. As more hardware supports Filmmaker Mode and can automatically enable it, we look forward to putting this mode to the test to see if it delivers on its promise.

[Hacksaw]

Watching sports in super duper definition is good. But other programs for me take a little time to get used to. I remember years ago when I switched from the old HD large screen with the huge picture tubes to the new flat screen with really high definition. I took a few weeks to get used to it when I watched regular programming like the crime shows I watch. At first I didn't care for it. It seemed like the soap opera look. Once I got used to it I liked it. But it did take time.

There is a setting that normalizes the picture or makes it look more 3D'ish.

[St. Loser Fan]

Plus CBS started pimping their Paramount+ streaming service during the AFC Championship game. Seems as they’ll be sending some football related shows over there as the ads featured some of the CBS analysts.

[St. Loser Fan]

Messups like this will save us from getting the NFL trapped on streaming.

[Rams1PlateSince1976]

It was reported on Rush this morning that viewership of sundays game was lowest in 14 years.

[AvengerRam]

It was reported on Rush this morning that viewership of sundays game was lowest in 14 years.

Maybe... just, maybe... people are getting tired of the Super Bowl being about virtue signalling, lame commercials, overblown musical performances, and excessive hype and would prefer it return to what it used to be... a football game.