[aeneas1]

But yet it wasn't hard to see the Boras-Keenum show being the plan for 2016 at all, because that blip is the nadir of Fisher's Rams coaching career. I can almost write the presser: "The 3-1 record we had to end the year showed we have a formula that works.

well you're absolute spot on imo, in fact you really don't have to look any farther than the nonsense fish/snead pitched when stumping for sam as the qb going forward, they repeated ad nauseum that the rams were 5-2-1 against the nfc west with sam under center, proof he was the guy according to them... but the rams offense averaged a meager 15.9 points per game in those 8 outings, while sam's numbers for the 8 games equated to 31st ranking in qb rating, a 32nd ranking in completion %, a 25th ranking in td % and a 20th ranking in pick %, while total offensive yardage average equated to a 30th ranking.

so how did the rams manage to win those 5 games with such a putrid offense? defense. the rams' d held the bad guys' offense to just 3, 13, 13, 17 and 17 offensive points in the 5 wins, an average of just 12.6 offensive points per game, something which apparently escaped the notice of fish/snead at the time, and something that apparently continues to escape their attention headed into the 2016 season.

[aeneas1]

Aeneas.. Thanks for keeping it real.

The O looked a little better... But I just think Keenum wasn't throwing picks, so it wasn't tragic.

Would a good QB help? Yes. Enough? For playoffs.. But not for a Super Bowl.

hey guy, nice to see ya posting here, got a lot duller (as if that's possible) at ramstalk when you stopped posting there, lot of fun back & forths with some of the natives back then, oh my, a lot of funny stuff, ha ha... re keenum, i agree, fish obviously wants a qb who won't be a liability under center in terms of giveaways, it's a deathblow to the low scoring affairs fish fancies, it's what sunk foles, and it's what sunk davis... alas that's where we are with fish, a hc whose priority on offense is not turning the ball over, which is a bit ironic given the rams rank 3rd highest in punt % per drive and 4th highest in 3 & out % per drive since fish's arrival in 2012... but, hey, if you're gonna rank near the top in giving the ball back to the bad guys, in short order no less, it's better to kick it to them i suppose...

[OldSchool]

Hopefully with the news DeFelippo was released from his contract with the Browns we can put the brakes on this.

[Stranger]

Aeneas.. Thanks for keeping it real.

The O looked a little better... But I just think Keenum wasn't throwing picks, so it wasn't tragic.

Would a good QB help? Yes. Enough? For playoffs.. But not for a Super Bowl.

hey guy, nice to see ya posting here, got a lot duller (as if that's possible) at ramstalk when you stopped posting there, lot of fun back & forths with some of the natives back then, oh my, a lot of funny stuff, ha ha... re keenum, i agree, fish obviously wants a qb who won't be a liability under center in terms of giveaways, it's a deathblow to the low scoring affairs fish fancies, it's what sunk foles, and it's what sunk davis... alas that's where we are with fish, a hc whose priority on offense is not turning the ball over, which is a bit ironic given the rams rank 3rd highest in punt % per drive and 4th highest in 3 & out % per drive since fish's arrival in 2012... but, hey, if you're gonna rank near the top in giving the ball back to the bad guys, in short order no less, it's better to kick it to them i suppose...

It is better, when you have excellent special teams & defense. I actually think that's a great part of the design.

But you MUST get more from your passing game. Period.
Thanks for the kind words. Your statistical perspectives are always amazing.

Yes, they really are. And they are much appreciated.

[moklerman]

Hopefully with the news DeFelippo was released from his contract with the Browns we can put the brakes on this.

The fact that we're praying for Cleveland's castoffs doesn't exactly cheer me up though.

The whole point of this exercise was to improve upon Schottenheimer. Maybe Fisher's doing things out of spite?

[OldSchool]

Hopefully with the news DeFelippo was released from his contract with the Browns we can put the brakes on this.

The fact that we're praying for Cleveland's castoffs doesn't exactly cheer me up though.

The whole point of this exercise was to improve upon Schottenheimer. Maybe Fisher's doing things out of spite?

No but with a healthy Hoyer, no running game to speak of, only Benjamin at WR and a TE who came into the year with 44 receptions in 6 years(ended up with 79 rec 1043 yards and 9 TD) he had the 15th offense. A guy who can use Hoyer and those limited weapons and get to 15 in offense works for me. Give him Wentz/Lynch/Cook along with Gurley, Tavon and hopefully a couple receivers in the 2nd round and we definitely upgrade.

[Hacksaw]

25th in offensive scoring
31st in 1st downs per game
32nd in offensive yards per game
32nd in pass yards per game
32nd in 3rd down conversions
25th in yards per pass attempt
24th in yards per offensive play
27th in rz trips per drive %
1st in punts per drive %

BTW. I too always appreciate the stats you bring to the board(s) . You presentations are always well thought out and obviously take you time to construct. Props and thanks A1.

I'm curious. What were the stats like in the other games as compared to the Keenum-Boras stats? It sure appeared the offense was staying on the field longer and started putting up more points. I guess the wins had me fooled.

Love our defense and sure hope we can keep that young secondary growing together.

[RamsFanSince82]

Maybe DeFlip is still an option as the Rams passing game coordinator.

[moklerman]

Hopefully with the news DeFelippo was released from his contract with the Browns we can put the brakes on this.

The fact that we're praying for Cleveland's castoffs doesn't exactly cheer me up though.

The whole point of this exercise was to improve upon Schottenheimer. Maybe Fisher's doing things out of spite?

No but with a healthy Hoyer, no running game to speak of, only Benjamin at WR and a TE who came into the year with 44 receptions in 6 years(ended up with 79 rec 1043 yards and 9 TD) he had the 15th offense. A guy who can use Hoyer and those limited weapons and get to 15 in offense works for me. Give him Wentz/Lynch/Cook along with Gurley, Tavon and hopefully a couple receivers in the 2nd round and we definitely upgrade.

Hoyer or McCown?

But that argument cuts both ways if one puts responsibility for the QB's health in the scheme. Not saying that's the case, but giving the guy credit for a half a year seems generous.

The Browns actually scored less as a team than the Rams did this year so it's hard to think DeFelippo is an upgrade. Which is saying a LOT. If you're an OC and you can't clearly improve a dreadful offense, then a new line of work is probably in order.

Against the NFCW this year the Browns put up 6, 20, 24, 13(15.7 ppg).

[Hacksaw]

I like that the tweet used the language ,, "Has chance to join #Rams" .. Like the Rams would be a good thing.