[Hacksaw]

DJ recruiting,,
https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... e=facebook

[/zn/]

then you clearly haven't followed talking heads and fan thoughts about stafford, pre or post trade..

Anyone who restricted their comments on what Stafford didn't have in Detroit to the running game is not worth responding to.

In 12 years they had no running game, mostly no defense (9 years our of 12), and also he had to play from behind a high percentage of the time. The combination of those things was deadly. The running game alone would not account for the losing.

As recently as 2017 they were 7th in scoring and went 9-7. But they were low ranked on defense (both yards and points), on yards per carry running, and on percentage of throws when behind (53.8%).

[Joe Pendleton]

We should go get Shady or AP rn, before someone else does.. there's literally no down side imho

[AvengerRam]

Too much black & white analysis here, if you ask me.

The loss of Akers hurts, a lot.
Its not an insurmountable loss, though.

Darrell Henderson has had durability issues.
His productivity when healthy, however, has been very good.

Matthew Stafford WAS hindered by a lack of a strong running game in Detroit.
That is NOT the only reason for his lack of success with the Lions.

Losing Akers hurts our chances of winning it all in 2021.
We still are a contender in 2021.

[ramsman34]

Watched Duke Johnson highlights. Good back with good receiver skills. Another decent vet option.

[aeneas1]

Anyone who restricted their comments on what Stafford didn't have in Detroit to the running game is not worth responding to.

your claim was no one does this, which was patently false, talking heads, sports writers and fans have done so for a long time in an effort to defend stafford's relative lack of success, and it's nonsense.

re akers, again, tough loss for the rams, but what a blow to akers and his family, hopefully he can rehab and come back stronger than ever.

fwiw the 2020 rams finished 18th in offensive scoring with their stable of rb last season, their lowest average since the fisher era - the rams also finished 17th in rush yards per carry including henderson finishing 25th, akers 31st, and brown 38th among the 51 rushers with at least 100 carries.

i suppose, as with stafford, it could be claimed that this was a big reason for goff's lack of success in 2020, an arguably below average run game, but as with stafford this claim would be nonsense imo, in fact from where i was sitting the rams offensive issues ran much deeper, starting with a failed switch from 11 to 12 groups.

next man up.

[/zn/]

your claim was no one does this

And you then said I overlooked people who did do that, and without looking I took your word for it. And it's true that if people did say that and only that, it's a bad point. Detroit's issue would not be lack of a running game in itself but that combined with other issues (which I named). In your rush to be abrasively unclassy and gratuitously confrontational, you didn't address that point. Which was the actual point all along.

[aeneas1]

in 2020:

% of rushes stuffed for no gain or a loss:
rams - 6th highest percentage

% of rushes that gained 5 yards or more:
rams - 9th lowest percentage

[AvengerRam]

your claim was no one does this, which was patently false, talking heads, sports writers and fans have done so for a long time in an effort to defend stafford's relative lack of success, and it's nonsense.

Nonsense? I don't think so.

If one were to assert that Stafford's lack of success is solely due to the lack of a running game, that would be a gross overstatement.

Asserting that it has been a factor, on the other hand, is not nonsense. Stafford has never had the benefit of playing in a balanced offense. In fact, in his career, the Lions had only one season (2013) in which they ran the ball more than 40% of the time (just barely, at 40.38%). By contrast, over the past three years, the Rams have run the ball 48.17% of the time.

Whether the Lions' lack of commitment to the run was due to an inability to run, playing from behind (due to a poor defense), or an offensive philosophy, its fair to say that Stafford has never consistently played in a balanced attack. The hope is that doing so will benefit him, and that hope is not nonsensical (even if some teams have succeeded with a less balanced approach).

[aeneas1]

If one were to assert that Stafford's lack of success is solely due to the lack of a running game, that would be a gross overstatement.

the post i responded to, that started this debate:

and snack's not alone, nor did he come up with this notion on his own, it's a popular argument in stafford's defense, and has been for a long time, that his lack of a good running game, that his lack of 100-yard rushers in a game, is responsible for him not having a more successful career.

but oddly no one is trying to defend josh allen's 2020 season in this manner, no one is pointing to the bills' 20th ranking in rush yards, 21st ranking in yards per carry, or no 100-yard rushers... and no one is trying to defend brady's 2020 season in this manner, no one is pointing to the bucs 28th ranking in rush yards or 24th ranking in yards per carry.

in 2017 the lions finished 7th in offensive scoring despite finishing last in rush yards and yards per carry avg.