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It did with Faulk, we just forget. They were very open about things then. Knees were not shrouded in mystery. Back then, that was hands, not knees.

I don’t remember the alarm bells going off that Faulk had arthritis. There weren’t sirens blaring from the media. Social media was in its infancy back then.

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I don’t remember the alarm bells going off that Faulk had arthritis. There weren’t sirens blaring from the media. Social media was in its infancy back then.

It came up.

From 8/17/01

https://fftoday.com/articles/special/faulks_knee.htm

Last March, Faulk met with team doctors, specifically Dr. George Paletta, to discuss the problems this right knee was giving him. "He could feel the cartilage getting hung up in there," Mike Martz said. The "drilling" surgery, like the one Faulk had on his left knee in '96, was suggested immediately. To the dismay of Faulk and the Rams officials, the 4-6 month recovery time would cut into the 2001 season. His other option was to do the usual arthroscopic job, and have the knee smoothed over and the loose bodies removed. Dr. Paletta recommended the major operation, saying, "Without the operation, Faulk is likely to experience rapid wear and tear in the knee." Marshall declined the major operation, and just had the knee scoped out. He missed May's minicamp, but enabled himself to suit up for training camp in July.

There were reports that Faulk will use an injected knee "lubricant" periodically during the season, in order to alleviate his cartilage problems, or 'lack of', that is.

On August 1st, Mike Martz said, "Marshall has a slight case of patellar tendinitis, so what we want to do, so that it doesn't get more inflamed, is give him anywhere from 3-7 days off." On August 4th, he had another MRI, this time revealing an enlarged bone bruise on the right knee. On August 6th, Faulk told MNF reporter Eric Dickerson that doctors said he could miss 3 weeks of action with his sore knee. Martz quickly went into spin control, and fired back: "I think what Marshall was referring to is I told him that I didn't want to play him for another 2 or 3 weeks."

And of course Faulk had a good year in 2001.

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It came up.

From 8/17/01

https://fftoday.com/articles/special/faulks_knee.htm


And of course Faulk had a good year in 2001.

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Not one word of that said he had arthritis.

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I don’t remember the alarm bells going off that Faulk had arthritis. There weren’t sirens blaring from the media. Social media was in its infancy back then.

you don't remember it because it didn't happen, instead it was just nfl knee injury business as usual and everything it implied, the guy had bad knees and we all knew it, everyone knew it, because it was reported on often...and of course the article that zn pointed to doesn't mention arthritis once (altho an si article about faulk's knee from that time did mention arthritis, but pretty much in passing).

howe's tweet on the other hand was indeed a five-alarm fire, that burned out of control for months, because no one (scribes) took the time to put arthritis into nfl context - but now, finally, more than a few have a better handle on what it means.

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you don't remember it because it didn't happen, instead it was just nfl knee injury business as usual and everything it implied, the guy had bad knees and we all knew it, everyone knew it, because it was reported on often...and of course the article that zn pointed to doesn't mention arthritis once (altho an si article about faulk's knee from that time did mention arthritis, but pretty much in passing).

howe's tweet on the other hand was indeed a five-alarm fire, that burned out of control for months, because no one (scribes) took the time to put arthritis into nfl context - but now, finally, more than a few have a better handle on what it means.

You nailed it

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you don't remember it because it didn't happen, instead it was just nfl knee injury business as usual and everything it implied, the guy had bad knees and we all knew it, everyone knew it, because it was reported on often...and of course the article that zn pointed to doesn't mention arthritis once (altho an si article about faulk's knee from that time did mention arthritis, but pretty much in passing).

howe's tweet on the other hand was indeed a five-alarm fire, that burned out of control for months, because no one (scribes) took the time to put arthritis into nfl context - but now, finally, more than a few have a better handle on what it means.

This is what I’ve been trying to tell you guys for months.

Seriously, well done summary.

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you don't remember it because it didn't happen, instead it was just the usual nfl knee injury stuff and everything that it implied, the guy had a bad knee(s) and we all knew it, everyone knew it, it was reported on often...and of course the article that zn pointed to doesn't mention arthritis once (altho an si article about fauilk's knee did mention arthritis, but almost in passing).

howe's tweet on the other hand was indeed a five-alarm fire, that burned out of control for months, because no one (scribes) took the time to put arthritis into nfl context... but now, finally, more than a few have a better handle on what it means...

By the time Faulk left the game he was bone on bone. And besides it's not having an arthritic condition in itself that hampers you, it;s when for whatever reason the condition is aggravated to the point where it flares up with severe swelling and pain.

The hysteria with Gurley comes from the belief that the mere fact of having an arthritic knee means you're hobbled. No. It can be managed, both in terms of training and in terms of lead management. He ran last year, and well, with an arthritic knee. When it flared up he had to sit. The trick is to reduce the chances of it flaring up, which again is both a physical training and a load management thing.

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Robert Quinn had cancer...….well not exactly cancer but a tumor, which is like cancer, a foreign growth in the body......and he played with it. So if somebody contracts cancer, there's no reason to believe he can't play with it. And play well with it. After all Quinn averaged 13.3 sacks per year with that tumor. Plus the Rams knew he had it when they drafted him.

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https://www.therams.com/news/no-jitters ... -rams-game

“It’s just football": No jitters for Darrell Henderson in first Rams game

Stu Jackson
STAFF WRITER

Nerves? What nerves?

Last week’s preseason opener at Oakland was no different than any other football game for Rams rookie running back Darrell Henderson.

“It’s just football, it’s just a different level,” Henderson said. “You’ve still got to stay humble and stay focused. You’ve got to flush everything else and get your mind right.”

What he put on film in his L.A. debut offered both positives and things to build on, according to Rams coach Sean McVay.

Henderson’s six rush attempts for 13 yards led all Los Angeles players who recorded carries in the Rams' 14-3 loss to the Raiders. He also added one reception for a five-yard loss.

McVay said on Sunday the plan for Henderson going into the Raiders game was for Henderson to get his feet wet, though he also expects to gradually increase Henderson’s touches as the preseason progresses.

“I think he’s a really conscientious player, doesn’t really get fazed by things,” McVay said “But there were some, just little subtle things about the game (he needs to work on), whether it’s when you’re picking up internal pressure, not lining up in a position where the ball ricochets off your leg, you know. Just being consistent when we are in the dot (formation), lining up right behind the center, so those are things.”

Henderson’s feelings about the speed of the game lined up closely with McVay’s comments about his mentality.

Henderson credited reps received during the Rams’ joint practices with the Raiders last week, as well as going against Los Angeles’ own defense, for helping him adjust and know what to expect heading into the preseason opener.

“I wouldn’t say it was faster, because from practice, seeing the defense fly everywhere and going against the Raiders, I think it kind of has slowed down for me,” Henderson said. “Seeing those guys fly around at practice, it’s difficult, you know? That defense is something serious.”

Fellow running back Todd Gurley said he gives Henderson some in-game feedback on “little stuff.” However, with how well he thought Henderson played, Gurley said he didn’t need to say much.

“He did a pretty good job,” said Gurley, who rested against Oakland on Saturday but still traveled with the team and was on the sidelines. “Obviously, a couple tough runs. There wasn’t too much there, but the times he had two good runs, there’s nothing really to tell him.”

Chosen with the 70thoverall pick in the third round of this year’s NFL Draft, Henderson was brought in as a dynamic playmaker for an already-explosive Rams offense.

Unsurprisingly, it hasn’t taken long for him to have the right mindset as he gets more chances to show what he’s capable of.

“Getting my first NFL game out of the way, I’m only going to get better from here,” Henderson said. “I’m looking forward to playing good against the Cowboys (this week) and seeing my former teammate (running back Tony Pollard). Hopefully it will be a good night for the both of us.”

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Robert Quinn had cancer...….well not exactly cancer but a tumor, which is like cancer, a foreign growth in the body......and he played with it. So if somebody contracts cancer, there's no reason to believe he can't play with it. And play well with it. After all Quinn averaged 13.3 sacks per year with that tumor. Plus the Rams knew he had it when they drafted him.

the hall of fame is filled with guys who had joint surgery, and by extension an "arthritic component", 95% of hall of famers played into their 30s, while 78% of halll of fame rb played into their 30s.