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 by dieterbrock
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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BuiltRamTough wrote:

On the other hand, if not for the NY Giants and 2 miracle catches by Tyree and Manningham, they could have 7 rings....

 by dieterbrock
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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BuiltRamTough wrote:So are you going to blame Russel Wilson for throwing an INT to Butler or are you going to blame Pete Carrol for not calling a run play?

No reason to throw the ball there, Seattle was a run first team and had one of the best short range running backs in the game, Lynch almost scored on the play before.
Where I would have blamed Wilson for would have been taking a sack there, after he had plenty of time.
That was a head scratcher of a call for sure, but not even close to the same thing as yesterday

 by dieterbrock
7 years 10 months ago
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Gareth wrote:I think you missed my point. AFTER the Julio play, the whole situation changed. Now they are in field goal range. Now is the time to play conservative and make sure you put points on the board and essentially ice the game. It made sense to still take chances before the Julio play because it was obvious they needed one more score.

They played the game aggressively and the Pats couldn't stop them. Ryan had a perfect passer rating for most of the game. So they stuck to what they do, play aggressive and it bit them in the ass. On the flip side, if Ryan throws a TD pass there, Shanahan is lauded for putting the hammer down. I didn't see Atlanta lay off the gas against Seattle or GB when they had big leads, yesterday was no different.
Other than the result of course....

 by Hacksaw_64
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   Inglewood, CA
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RamsFanSince82 wrote:https://twitter.com/SeanTPendergast/status/828619313825345536



It's a million percent on Shanny here.

WTF does Dan Quinn have to do with it? He delegates the offensive play calling 100 percent to Shanny.

You could try and make an argument to try and blame players ie OL or Ryan for not executing or taking a sack, but you would be wrong in this case.

You do NOT for any reason at this stage in the game with that lead in that field position in the fucking Super Bowl unnecessarily expose yourself to risks that you don't even need to take in the first place.

As a coach, its your job to put your players in the best place and situation to win. Up until this epic meltdown, he did this masterfully. Instead he chose to put them in position to lose. They didn't need a touchdown here...

I almost hate to say this, but if there was ever a time for Fisherball this was exactly the time and place. Bellicheck, Patricia and the Pat's defense had to be absolutely drooling when they saw Ryan actually trying to throw the ball out of shotgun at that point in the game.

It's tantamount to deciding to hand the ball of and risk a fumble on a running play to run out the clock instead of just taking a knee.

Remember this?



That's how you get fired as an OC..



Anyways. Doesn't really matter to me. I'm not that emotionally invested in either team. I was rooting for the Dirty birds. But my life is certainly not any worse after they lost.


I'm quite looking forward to our 2017 LA Rams season. The good the bad and the ugly I'm all in. Can't wait.

 by Gareth
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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dieterbrock wrote:They played the game aggressively and the Pats couldn't stop them. Ryan had a perfect passer rating for most of the game. So they stuck to what they do, play aggressive and it bit them in the ass. On the flip side, if Ryan throws a TD pass there, Shanahan is lauded for putting the hammer down. I didn't see Atlanta lay off the gas against Seattle or GB when they had big leads, yesterday was no different.
Other than the result of course....


We just don't agree.

After Julio caught that ball, my thought was "be conservative, make sure you get 3 points and you can't lose unless NE scores and recovers an onside kick". Seemed like they obvious way to go regardless of what Atlanta usually does. Again, imo, game situation dictates what you do - much more than anything else.

 by Elvis
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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http://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/49ers-f ... ghts-game/

49ERS FANS ARE YOU HAPPY ABOUT YOUR NEW HEAD COACH AFTER LAST NIGHT’S GAME?

In the fourth quarter all the Falcons had to do is pick up one yard on the ground. Instead of running the ball the 49ers new head coach Kyle Shanahan tried to throw the ball when he was hit and fumbled giving the ball back to the Patriots.

Then on their next drive, Matt Ryan suffered another sack from the Patriots’ 23-yard line (easy field goal range) pushed them into a third-and-23, from whence a holding call pushed them out of a chance for potentially game-clinching points.

Shanahan answered the question after the game, but I want to know what you think of you new coach?

“The thought is to get as many yards as you can,” Shanahan said, via Vaughn McClure of ESPN.com. “And we were right there on the fringe. It was by no means an easy field goal. From what I remember, we ran in on first-and-10 and lost yards. Got into second-and-11, so we try to get a pass to get us back into a manageable third down, closer to the field goal, and we took a sack. Taking a sack . . . got us into a third-and-20, so we threw a quick pass trying to get back into field goal range, which we did. But there was a holding call on the play. And when you get a holding call on third-and-20, it goes back that far. We were way out of field goal range. We tried our best to get back in but couldn’t get it done.”

“It’s not really the run-pass ratio that I look at,” Shanahan said. “It’s you stay on the field, and you run your offense. When went three-and-out two times, which was huge. I think we had second-and-1 on both of those. To not convert on second-and-1 and then third, it was tough. That’s why we let them get back into the game.”


The Falcons were not playing to win, they seemed to go away from what was really working. Devonta Freeman was dominating, but they stopped giving him the rock when they needed him the most. I want to know what 49ers fans think?

 by dieterbrock
7 years 10 months ago
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Up 28-12 I say all you have to do is make sure you don't turn the ball over. It just should have never gotten close.

 by dieterbrock
7 years 10 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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Gareth wrote:We just don't agree.

After Julio caught that ball, my thought was "be conservative, make sure you get 3 points and you can't lose unless NE scores and recovers an onside kick". Seemed like they obvious way to go regardless of what Atlanta usually does. Again, imo, game situation dictates what you do - much more than anything else.

Actually, we do agree. I agree that's what I would do, however that's not the way Atlanta had been playing. That's where our thinking is different. They didn't run clock against Green Bay, they kept chucking it, scoring points and not allowing GB back in the game. They stayed aggressive which became a live by the sword, die by the sword deal

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