[OldSchool]

These cuts are exactly why I was ready to move on from Fisher. He's had enough time. 4 years is plenty as the roster is now about 95% his guys.
And this year is the tip of the iceburg. Year over year we will now be facing who to sign, who to let go.
Seattle is feeling the affects of it, but the difference is that they are winning still.

There are now 4 guys on the roster from pre-Fisher, though one will be a free agent in a couple days when it starts and that's Sims.

Saffold, Kendrick and McQuade and we can easily imo get rid of Saffold.

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Anyone remember Michael Hawthorne or Chris Clairborne? Just thought I'd add to the list of "Bad FA Signings". (Jason Brown and Greg Bell come to mind too).

I listed Claiborne.

Bell and Brown were not bad initially. The problem is they both lost interest in football, for personal reasons. On top of that, Bell was hurt. In fact after the injury-destroyed 2011 season they both had offers to play in the league and they both turned them down. Brown even went into farming instead, as a kind of calling.

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from Why a star football player traded NFL career for a tractor

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-nfl- ... -for-good/

LOUISBURG, N.C. - At one point number 60, Jason Brown, was one of the best centers in the NFL.

At one point he had a five-year, $37 million contract with the St. Louis Rams.

And at one point he decided it was all meaningless - and just walked away from football.

"My agent told me, 'You're making the biggest mistake of your life,'" said Brown. "And I looked right back at him and I said, 'No I'm not. No I'm not.'"

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[/zn/]

Seattle is feeling the affects of it, but the difference is that they are winning still.

But to be fair, they didn't lose 2 qbs over the last 2 years.

[dieterbrock]

Seattle is feeling the affects of it, but the difference is that they are winning still.

But to be fair, they didn't lose 2 qbs over the last 2 years.

Because they kept upgrading the position until they got it right. They did win a fair share of games with Tavaris Jackson, Charlie Whitehurst etc
Signed a big free agent and still drafted Wilson

[/zn/]

Seattle is feeling the affects of it, but the difference is that they are winning still.

But to be fair, they didn't lose 2 qbs over the last 2 years.

Because they kept upgrading the position until they got it right.

No. Because they didn't get 2 starting caliber qbs, one who was injured (with 2 freak injuries to the same knee) and another who (in defiance of normal expectations) melted down.

And I don;t see how Jackson or Whitehurst are any different from Clemens, Hill, Davis, or Keenum. In fact of the 6 of them, Whitehurst is by far the worst of the bunch.

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[maxxx power]

Anyone remember Michael Hawthorne or Chris Clairborne? Just thought I'd add to the list of "Bad FA Signings". (Jason Brown and Greg Bell come to mind too).

I think you mean Jacob bell. Greg bell came in the Dickerson trade and actually had a couple of decent years.

[Bartman31]

If you were there for it there was nothing better!

I spent every extra penny I could muster on tix to Dodger, Lakers, Kings and Rams games. Heck, I even attended California Angels games before they ruined that stadium.

I gotta say though, there was nothing like attending those Showtime games of the Lakers. It was like the GSOT days, but just in basketball. That team was beyond fun to watch. And the fans were totally in to the team and those games. The forum just rocked.

The SB against the Steelers was pretty damn special too. We should have won that game. We had them, until the interception in the red zone with approx 5mins left.

This

[Elvis]

Anyone remember Michael Hawthorne or Chris Clairborne? Just thought I'd add to the list of "Bad FA Signings". (Jason Brown and Greg Bell come to mind too).

I think you mean Jacob bell. Greg bell came in the Dickerson trade and actually had a couple of decent years.

Yeah Greg Bell was great, killed it for us in '88 and '89.

Anyone mention Dexter Coakley yet?

[Hacksaw]

52 moving parts all have to be in sync. So the leader of those 52 have to have them all buying in and preforming their plan at a high level. And of course the plan has to be solid.

What makes figuring all of this stuff out is that if any one of those 52 doesn't do their job, bad things happen.

The likely hood for failure goes way up when the players who possess the ball the most are the ones who play at a lesser level.
Out of the 52, the QB and center are the players who touch the ball the most, followed by the RB's and receivers. All of those guys need to be special players and perform at the highest level.

The Rams have a solid squad, BUT the most important positions have not done well. Until Mason / Gurley our RB's had been less than spectacular. Since Bruce and Holt departed, our receiver corp's have been uneventful. More importantly, the QB's have been no better than average. Perhaps worse. It's no coincidence that is just how our team has finished,, average. On the cusp but can't get over the top.

Or is it the fault of bad offensive design?

So the question remains, is adding 1 top receiver and QB that wins games going to put us over the top? Or could a different coaching staff with a different playbook make our current players win under the same circumstances win more?

Since players play the games, I go with the former. We need a QB.

[Elvis]

No. Because they didn't get 2 starting caliber qbs, one who was injured (with 2 freak injuries to the same knee) and another who (in defiance of normal expectations) melted down.

After 4 years the Rams don't have a QB. That's on Fisher. Foles is on Fisher.

He's done a fantastic job of building the defense. There's nothing lucky about it. Fisher deserves the credit.

But the same is true for the miserable offense. Not bad luck, just a bad job by coach Fisher, so far anyway...