by rams74 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1728 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #61 I don't think Shane was being deliberately dishonest. I think he truly believed all the articles that he wrote, as evidenced by his off-the-deep-end open letter response to what happened. He says he was lied to by his sources, because what ultimately happened is so vastly different than his interpretation of what his sources were telling him. The most frustrating thing about Shane to me is that it's impossible to get him to see how others view what he writes. He absolutely refuses to accept that he is not objective about anything. He doesn't even see how others could possibly see things that way, he just thinks people disagree with him just to be difficult. He's dug in to his position, and refuses to accept that there is any other way to see things. He didn't do himself any favors with his intractability to see something different than where he's standing and the direction he's looking, because when the owners' vote came, he was unprepared for the result. Hence the extremeness of his emotional response. He can't even see that the open letter was an inappropriate response for a paid writer. STL fans give him kudos for writing the same thing they were feeling, and he feels justified in publishing all that emotional overflow. Good luck with all that. by ramsfan1977 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #62 Did Shane ever hear of the Sunday Ticket? If you are a Rams fan, you're a Rams fan. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #63 ZigZag was always decent about it. So many were turds but the 'Chief' Turd still has to be hokahey. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41441 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #64 TOPIC AUTHOR I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation:ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:The FAA issues are being very understated right now. This threatens Inglewood's timeline (despite what a certain local media member wants people to believe) and even the viability of the stadium as whole. I think that will become clearer over the next 60-days. Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #65 Elvis wrote:I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation: ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away.What is going on with that FAA business? I haven't heard much in a while.. It kind of,, uh,, 'went away'. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bubbaramfan 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1119 Joined: Apr 30 2015 Carson Landfill Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #66 The FAA story was never a real issue. It was easily resolved. Reply 7 / 7 1 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 66 posts Jun 21 2025
by ramsfan1977 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #62 Did Shane ever hear of the Sunday Ticket? If you are a Rams fan, you're a Rams fan. by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #63 ZigZag was always decent about it. So many were turds but the 'Chief' Turd still has to be hokahey. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41441 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #64 TOPIC AUTHOR I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation:ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:The FAA issues are being very understated right now. This threatens Inglewood's timeline (despite what a certain local media member wants people to believe) and even the viability of the stadium as whole. I think that will become clearer over the next 60-days. Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #65 Elvis wrote:I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation: ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away.What is going on with that FAA business? I haven't heard much in a while.. It kind of,, uh,, 'went away'. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bubbaramfan 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1119 Joined: Apr 30 2015 Carson Landfill Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #66 The FAA story was never a real issue. It was easily resolved. Reply 7 / 7 1 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 66 posts Jun 21 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #63 ZigZag was always decent about it. So many were turds but the 'Chief' Turd still has to be hokahey. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41441 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #64 TOPIC AUTHOR I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation:ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:The FAA issues are being very understated right now. This threatens Inglewood's timeline (despite what a certain local media member wants people to believe) and even the viability of the stadium as whole. I think that will become clearer over the next 60-days. Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #65 Elvis wrote:I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation: ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away.What is going on with that FAA business? I haven't heard much in a while.. It kind of,, uh,, 'went away'. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bubbaramfan 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1119 Joined: Apr 30 2015 Carson Landfill Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #66 The FAA story was never a real issue. It was easily resolved. Reply 7 / 7 1 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 66 posts Jun 21 2025
by Elvis 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 41441 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #64 TOPIC AUTHOR I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation:ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:The FAA issues are being very understated right now. This threatens Inglewood's timeline (despite what a certain local media member wants people to believe) and even the viability of the stadium as whole. I think that will become clearer over the next 60-days. Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #65 Elvis wrote:I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation: ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away.What is going on with that FAA business? I haven't heard much in a while.. It kind of,, uh,, 'went away'. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bubbaramfan 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1119 Joined: Apr 30 2015 Carson Landfill Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #66 The FAA story was never a real issue. It was easily resolved. Reply 7 / 7 1 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 66 posts Jun 21 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #65 Elvis wrote:I agree Ziggy is a good guy and doesn't belong with some of the others we've been talking about but he really made it seem like he knew stuff about the FAA situation: ZigZagRam at RRF wrote:Definitely not a fabrication. All I can say is 'stay tuned.' This isn't going away.What is going on with that FAA business? I haven't heard much in a while.. It kind of,, uh,, 'went away'. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bubbaramfan 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1119 Joined: Apr 30 2015 Carson Landfill Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #66 The FAA story was never a real issue. It was easily resolved. Reply 7 / 7 1 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 66 posts Jun 21 2025
by bubbaramfan 9 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1119 Joined: Apr 30 2015 Carson Landfill Pro Bowl Re: Gray: Dear Stan Kroenke (Part 2) POST #66 The FAA story was never a real issue. It was easily resolved. Reply 7 / 7 1 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business