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 by moklerman
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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Didn't the Avalanche win it all with Kroenke as the owner?

 by moklerman
9 years 5 months ago
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Jacksnowfan wrote:I don't understand, whats the problem with Boras?

He has no track record and in terms of candidates, he's the laziest possible way for the Rams to go. He's never been a coordinator at the NFL level and barely has any experience at the college level.

Basically, he's like Cignetti...only less.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 5 months ago
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Not a very exciting hire.
The O did seem to improve after cig's was gone. Foles was invisible through that losing stretch and that is when the O was at it's worst. Guys were getting open more and the timing was better. imo, the team would have registered more wins with Keenum without Foles mid season meltdown losses.
Need another go to top receiver and a dominating offensive line.

Still, it's not a very exciting hire and hoped to get someone with more experience and style.

Then let Tavon and TGII do their thing. Those two are fun to watch. And so is our D.. LA Rams will bring it even with Boras .. Fingers crossed

 by aeneas1
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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moklerman wrote:
Jacksnowfan wrote:I don't understand, whats the problem with Boras?

He has no track record and in terms of candidates, he's the laziest possible way for the Rams to go. He's never been a coordinator at the NFL level and barely has any experience at the college level.

Basically, he's like Cignetti...only less.

yep... moreover, the in-house promotion of the inexperienced boras, like cignetti, represents yet another season of fisher-led offense, just another jag tasked to run fisher's vision of a run-first, kill the clock, ball control offense, an offensive strategy based on attempting to limit opponent possessions, and opponent time of possession, in the hope of winning low scoring affairs with strong defensive play. the approach sucks. it's playing not to lose. the rams need a qualified oc that is given full control of the offense, a qualified oc that wants to field a scoring offense.

 by ramsman34
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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Denver: Dominant (#1) defense, and an offense that, even based around the run, is always attacking/trying to score. Granted, better than us at QB and outside skill positions. WE need to be THAT; heavy zone run team with excellent outside the numbers threats/speed, great TE, add in Tavon...just need a good to great QB and to make sure the line is much improved going into the season. I think we can accomplish all of that this offseason with the probable exception of QB, sorry to say. Even with Keenum, possibly Mannion, with the aforementioned improvements this team will be very difficult to beat.

 by ramsman34
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Elvis, maybe merge with the Boras as probable OC thread???

 by aeneas1
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Hacksaw wrote:Not a very exciting hire. The O did seem to improve after cig's was gone.

and you're not alone in this thinking, but it just wasn't the case, i imagine it was the rams' 3-1 record under boras that drove this sentiment, but the 3-1 record was largely due to solid defensive play, that covered for inept offensive play... under boars the rams offense ranked:

25th in offensive scoring
31st in 1st downs per game
32nd in offensive yards per game
32nd in pass yards per game
32nd in 3rd down conversions
25th in yards per pass attempt
24th in yards per offensive play
27th in rz trips per drive %
1st in punts per drive %

that's absolutely miserable... in fact the rams' offense scored just 14, 16 and 16 offensive points in 3 of boras' 4 outings as oc... if not for solid defensive play, and defensive return tds in 2 of boars' outings that were the difference in the game, the rams would have finished the year 1-3 under boras, with a bottom of the league ranked offense. and don't get me started on keenum, the rams' offensive numbers under his watch were equally bad, equally pitiful... insult to injury, we get to watch a talented defense go to absolute waste because of such abysmal offensive play.

 by Indrid Cold
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Redington Beach, FL
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aeneas1 wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Not a very exciting hire. The O did seem to improve after cig's was gone.

and you're not alone in this thinking, but it just wasn't the case, i imagine it was the rams' 3-1 record under boras that drove this sentiment, but the 3-1 record was largely due to solid defensive play, that covered for inept offensive play... under boars the rams offense ranked:

25th in offensive scoring
31st in 1st downs per game
32nd in offensive yards per game
32nd in pass yards per game
32nd in 3rd down conversions
25th in yards per pass attempt
24th in yards per offensive play
27th in rz trips per drive %
1st in punts per drive %

that's absolutely miserable... in fact the rams' offense scored just 14, 16 and 16 offensive points in 3 of boras' 4 outings as oc... if not for solid defensive play, and defensive return tds in 2 of boars' outings that were the difference in the game, the rams would have finished the year 1-3 under boras, with a bottom of the league ranked offense. and don't get me started on keenum, the rams' offensive numbers under his watch were equally bad, equally pitiful... insult to injury, we get to watch a talented defense go to absolute waste because of such abysmal offensive play.


But yet it wasn't hard to see the Boras-Keenum show being the plan for 2016 at all, because that blip is the nadir of Fisher's Rams coaching career. I can almost write the presser: "The 3-1 record we had to end the year showed we have a formula that works. We are going to look to get better, and we're gonna help Rob, and he'll be better, being in charge with the full offseason after having to step in cold, but I like the group we have and the way we closed the year." Jeff strikes me as the kind of guy that never makes changes until that's the only choice left (i.e., it's too late).

 by Hacksaw
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OK. No arguing those numbers A1 and Dick, I think you nailed it when you described the cleaner QB play as "it wasn't tragic". lol
I don't think CK is the answer, or is Boras, but I did see some hope there if that ends up being what we get.
Fingers still crossed.

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