[CanuckRightWinger]

Very sad day today....our second trip to the Promised Land as the Los Angeles Rams....and we lose again.

In SBXIV at Pasadena in January 1980, we were 11 point underdogs to the powerful Pittsburgh Steelers...who were also the multi-SB winner media darlings of the day, just as the Pats are today.

The 1979 Rams played like champions that day and were leading the Steelers 19-17 early into the 4th Quarter. They played like real warriors, defiant underdogs really, that day in a back&forth battle of the titans. I was sitting in the corner of the RoseBowl, about the 10 yard line, halfway up, in the corner where Lawrence McCutcheon threw his 24 yard TD pass to Ron Smith, that caught Chuck Noll's D flat-footed.

Question: If ham-handed Defense-Guy Ray Malavasi could come up with a HB Option Pass in his gameplan, why couldn't Sean OffensiveGenius McVay not try some similar Offensive trickery yesterday?

ALSO: Why did we punt NINE times yesterday.....were there no opportunities for some Johnny Hekker fake-punt magic?

The weak (back in 1985) New England Patriots went up against the 1985 Bears in their SuperBowl matchup. The 2018 Patriots D is NOT the 1985 Bears D.....yet EVEN the weak QB duo of Tony Eason/Steve Grogan at least managed 10 points on the powerful Bears D. We could only muster 3 points with our star-studded Offensive Roster????????? Sheesh.....did McVay even watch the tapes of the 5 Regular Season Patriot losses all to non-playoff teams? If he did, he missed somethings.

McVay just seemed to think that somehow if we just kept punting, that eventually the worm would turn and we'd score I assume. What's that Einstein line about doing the same thing over&over&over again will eventually yeild a different result again? Some smart poster suggested McVay hire an older Offensive Coach who might question the young guru. Not a bad idea in my mind. Even the Kennedy Administration suffered from Group Think when they went ahead with the Bay of Pigs fiasco in the early sixties. With McVay debacle yesterday, you cannot even call that "Group Think". He decides ALL for the Offense.

Well, what's done is done. Wade's defensive gameplan was masterful and his charges DID play like champions. To me, it's as McVay himself admitted......he was outcoached by Bill Bellicheck. Period. Full Stop.

.....such a disappointment!!!

I feel bad for our Defensive guys who definitely left it all on the field. Nine punts....good grief!!!

One final note for the young optimists out there who think our HC is young, our QB is young, our star RB is young, etc etc and the young Rams will be back in many SuperBowls to come. To you all I remind you of one Dan Marino who in his rookie season 1984 I think, took Don Shula's Dolphins to the SB and lost to Joe Montana and the powerhouse 49ers. Don't worry everybody said, with the young star QB like Marino being in the skilled hands of Don Shula, Marino would be in many many future SuperBowls.

Well Dan Marino played in the NFL for 17 seasons and
HE
NEVER
WENT TO
ANOTHER SB
AFTER HIS FIRST!!!!!!

Many many stars have to align to get to SB....let's hope McVay AND SNEAD!! recover from yesterday's failure.

[Zen_Ronin]

Anyone calling for McVay's head is an idiot. To even expect a 2nd year head coach to win the Superbowl is a stretch. Not just a coach in a 2nd year with a new team, a SECOND YEAR AS HEAD COACH!! and he not only made the playoffs both years, he made the Superbowl in HIS SECOND YEAR!!!

McVay has a burning motivation to succeed like no one I've ever seen. We didn't get it this year, sucks, but we will win the Lambardi under McVay, and I think maybe even a few.

[aeneas1]

The defense played well through the playoffs. They did well limiting points on the board in this game. One can credit to Wade Phillips for designing a game plan that did its best to mask our weaknesses; I'm not sure I'd say it was a masterful performance.

teams that scored 13 or fewer points in the super bowl were 0-20 prior to this weekend, the pats are now the first team in super bowl history to win the lombardi despite scoring just 13 (or fewer) points... moreover the pats have scored more than 13 points in 92% of the games they've played since 2001... holding them to just 13, especially on that stage, was impressive as hell, masterful imo, and should have spelled a lombardi win.

[CanuckRightWinger]

Who's calling for his head? Bad wi-fi reception up in Edmonchuk, or what?

I'm just pointing out the guy isn't perfect, as some seem to believe.
And yesterday was not an aberration. Our D held NE to 13 points. You need to win those!!!

Oh yeah, and I also asked questions about trick offensive plays and ST moves that worked out for us in the past........but, yeah, yeah....ignore that stuff and project that I want McVay gone.

[/zn/]

Anyone calling for McVay's head is an idiot.

Who is calling for his head?

No one anywhere I have seen.

So anyone calling for McVay's head is not an idiot--to be more exact, they are actually non-existent.

Maybe somewhere in an alternate universe that I am unaware of there's someone saying I told you so and fire McVay. But in our universe, people seem to be saying yeah he was outcoached but he is young and will learn from it.

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[CanuckRightWinger]

Well said ZN!

[Gareth]

Who's calling for his head? Bad wi-fi reception up in Edmonchuk, or what?

I'm just pointing out the guy isn't perfect, as some seem to believe.
And yesterday was not an aberration. Our D held NE to 13 points. You need to win those!!!

Oh yeah, and I also asked questions about trick offensive plays and ST moves that worked out for us in the past........but, yeah, yeah....ignore that stuff and project that I want McVay gone.

I counter your “who’s calling for his head?” with who said the guy is perfect?

[aeneas1]

The idea on defense, through what Flores and Belichick planned, was to force Jared Goff to think on the fly. It’s well-documented that McVay uses to the coach-to-quarterback communication to adjust calls based on what the defense is showing, up to the point where that communication cuts off, with 15 seconds left on the play clock.

The Patriots wanted to negate that creative advantage, so they essentially sent in two calls on every play. One was what they’d show before the snap. The other was what they’d switch into post-snap. And if you want to see how it worked, go back and watch how Goff held the ball, and doubted what he was looking at, over and over and over.

the rams faced more than a few teams this season that did this, that attempted to counter the radio communication by changing looks on the fly, post snap, belichick wasn't the first guy to do this vs the rams (which is what the piece implies imo).

i think what the patriots did extremely well was disguise who they would send after the qb, it became a shell game for the rams olinemen, never knowing exactly who to pick up in pass pro, not knowing how many were coming, nor how many per side of the ball.

and they compounded the problems this created by dropping into different zone looks at the snap of the ball.

they also did a great job of shooting gaps upfield when the rams zone stretched rather than flow with the oline or the implied direction of the play... this is something a few other teams had a lot of success with against the rams, and something that makes the rams oline look horrible.

[Zen_Ronin]

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@/zn/

Plenty of people all over social and spoets media are calling for McVay's dismissal, and I repeat they're idiots.

Not my fault if you don't see it or want to acknowledge it, just like playing wilfully ignorant about "I told you so posts", simply because the exact words aren't used.

Try not be be so sensitive or fly off to your own conclusions. Trust me, if I feel like calling anybody on this forum out I will @ them.

[Hacksaw]

I'm calling for his head, , , to figure out how to stop a dominant 4-3 pass rush against the elite D's.