[Hacksaw]

There's more to lose than a team and attorney fees..

[Hacksaw]

They were dumb enough to believe Kevin Demoff

That purchase was after the failures in StL had already occurred. By then y'all were on thin ice. The writing was on the wall. To rest on that statement crafted to be elusive never said it wasn't for a future stadium either.

[St. Loser Fan]

There's more to lose than a team and attorney fees..

Who’s respect are you talking about?
It’s gone. We lost it all when Stan dumped on us and Jerry laughed like a school kid.

[rams74]

I agree that there's plenty of fault on the St. Louis side. The CVC was slow to react, and when they did, all they could come up with was a low-ball offer to provide minor renovations to the Dome.

But at the same time, they were constrained by the economics of the deal they had originally made. And more significantly, they were accustomed to dealing with Georgia. I fully believe that had Georgia lived forever, or had her children somehow maintained control of the Rams, the Rams would still be in St. Louis. Georgia's default position was to find a way to make it work in STL. The political and business leaders in St. Louis (and the PD) knew that and were lulled into a false sense of security by that.

Kroenke's default position was different than Georgia's, and STL was slow to realize that.

All I'm saying is that from a fan's perspective, I think it's completely understandable why fans of the St. Louis Rams hate Stan Kroenke and feel betrayed by him (and his minions).

I think the NFL is to blame for allowing the fight over L.A. to drag out the way it did, forcing Kroenke into a scorched-earth strategy in St. Louis. That's why there's this lawsuit over relocation guidelines. But Kroenke should give back Rams Park.

[Hacksaw]

I think the NFL is to blame for allowing the fight over L.A. to drag out the way it did, forcing Kroenke into a scorched-earth strategy in St. Louis. That's why there's this lawsuit over relocation guidelines. But Kroenke should give back Rams Park.

Optics by the NFL wanting to appear fair I'd imagine. Otherwise agreed and I bet he does depending on what StL does moving forward regarding this. Leverage. ie: drop the case and I'll give you the rights to Rams Park.

[St. Loser Fan]

I agree that there's plenty of fault on the St. Louis side. The CVC was slow to react, and when they did, all they could come up with was a low-ball offer to provide minor renovations to the Dome.

But at the same time, they were constrained by the economics of the deal they had originally made. And more significantly, they were accustomed to dealing with Georgia. I fully believe that had Georgia lived forever, or had her children somehow maintained control of the Rams, the Rams would still be in St. Louis. Georgia's default position was to find a way to make it work in STL. The political and business leaders in St. Louis (and the PD) knew that and were lulled into a false sense of security by that.

Kroenke's default position was different than Georgia's, and STL was slow to realize that.

All I'm saying is that from a fan's perspective, I think it's completely understandable why fans of the St. Louis Rams hate Stan Kroenke and feel betrayed by him (and his minions).

I think the NFL is to blame for allowing the fight over L.A. to drag out the way it did, forcing Kroenke into a scorched-earth strategy in St. Louis. That's why there's this lawsuit over relocation guidelines. But Kroenke should give back Rams Park.

He doesn’t have Rams Park yet. A youth soccer league is leasing it out right now. They’re also the ones that found some of the stuff left behind that ended up in the lawsuit.
https://www.slysa.org/lou-fusz-athletic ... -rams-park

The deal is he gets to buy it for a buck in 2025.

[rams74]

He doesn’t have Rams Park yet. A youth soccer league is leasing it out right now.
https://www.slysa.org/lou-fusz-athletic ... -rams-park

The deal is he gets to buy it for a buck in 2025.

Right, but it's essentially his if he waits long enough. And it's just dumb. He should just give up his option on the place.

[majik]

As much as you might think St. Louisans have their heads in the sand, we are smart enough to know who is at fault. That's why pretty much all of the politicians involved lost office. It's why we voted down public funding for the soccer stadium. It's also why the Post Dispatch, a once great paper is in the trash.

Not sure what else you want us to say or do.


All of this is correct and just proves our failures as a city. Congratulations to you.

Again:
-Stan shouldn't get Rams Park for $1. If he wanted that prize he should have kept the team here.
-Stan and Demoff shouldn't have asked for revisions to the National Rent A Car Stadium if they had every intention of going to LA. They could have asked for all that if the Raiders/Chargers at Carson was the NFL's choice.

1). Who was the moron that gave Stan the option to buy Rams Park for $1 in 2025 without the provision that the Rams be in St.Louis?

2) Wouldn’t Stan asking for revisions to the proposed stadium be a part of the process of negotiating with St. Louis versus moving the franchise to LA? Wouldn’t Stan want to assess the best offer for the franchise? Stan may have had LA his clear favorite, so he should have told St.Louis don’t even bother to improve your offer? Any money St.Louis spent is part of the price of negotiating.

Stan did not break a lease. The NFL had rules/guidelines about franchise relocation back in the 1980’s, how did that work out when Al Davis sued the NFL to move from Oakland to LA?

[St. Loser Fan]

Who was the moron that gave Stan the option to buy Rams Park for $1 in 2025 without the provision that the Rams be in St.Louis?

That was a deal back with Georgia from 1995 and carried over. Those morons are dead or in nursing homes.

Stan may have had LA his clear favorite, so he should have told St.Louis don’t even bother to improve your offer?

He shouldn't have requested changes to a plan he thought was so horrible.

Any NFL Club that signs on to this proposal in St. Louis will be well on the road to financial ruin, and the League will be harmed...

[majik]

Perhaps he thought that by requesting changes, it wouldn’t be as horrible.

That would be called negotiating