by BobCarl 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 4659 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar STL Fans? POST #51 Hacksaw wrote:But that team then couldn't sustain it. Why? As you stated. A bunch of nincompoops were running the joint. YES!!!The difference today is that our current genius is capable of running a solid team and he looks to be in it for the long haul.To me, the biggest difference was the Rams player personnel director then and now, Then it was the emasculated Charley Army (with a title of GM)... Now it is Les Snead (with a title of GM) ... even though I have been a critic of Snead during the Fisher regime, it seems that he has been allowed to make a more meaningful contribution than Charley Army was allowed to. ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #52 moklerman liked this post pmill66 wrote:Martz would have been offered a head coaching job or 2 if Vermeil would have stayed. Most fans would have chosen Martz over Vermeil for Rams head coach, including this one.I'm with you here.It would've been great to keep the '99 staff in tact but if that wasn't an option, if it had to be a choice between losing Martz or losing Vermeil, the choice was clear, keep Martz.That's certainly how i felt at the time and even now, with years of hindsight, i feel the same way... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #53 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:To me, the biggest difference was the Rams player personnel director then and now, Then it was the emasculated Charley Army (with a title of GM)... Now it is Les Snead (with a title of GM) ... even though I have been a critic of Snead during the Fisher regime, it seems that he has been allowed to make a more meaningful contribution than Charley Army was allowed to. Looks like Vermiel was in charge of the personnel that became the GSOT.Between Ziggy and Martz I can see where Armey didn't sail on smooth seas..Back at the end of LA 1, one can see that Shaw was in total charge of the dismantling of the Rams... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: STL Fans? POST #54 Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. by BobCarl 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 4659 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar STL Fans? POST #55 St. Loser Fan wrote:...don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. what defines a "Saint Louisan"? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #56 BobCarl wrote:what defines a "Saint Louisan"?Someone born and raised here. -The Bidwells got run out of Chicago. -Georgia left St. Louis at 15 and didn’t come back for 50 years. On game days she couldn’t get back to LA fast enough. -Stan is from a few hours away. by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #57 RamsFanSince82 liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.With the U.S. being a nation of immigrants and L.A. being a city of transplants, this notion makes very little sense to me... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #52 moklerman liked this post pmill66 wrote:Martz would have been offered a head coaching job or 2 if Vermeil would have stayed. Most fans would have chosen Martz over Vermeil for Rams head coach, including this one.I'm with you here.It would've been great to keep the '99 staff in tact but if that wasn't an option, if it had to be a choice between losing Martz or losing Vermeil, the choice was clear, keep Martz.That's certainly how i felt at the time and even now, with years of hindsight, i feel the same way... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #53 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:To me, the biggest difference was the Rams player personnel director then and now, Then it was the emasculated Charley Army (with a title of GM)... Now it is Les Snead (with a title of GM) ... even though I have been a critic of Snead during the Fisher regime, it seems that he has been allowed to make a more meaningful contribution than Charley Army was allowed to. Looks like Vermiel was in charge of the personnel that became the GSOT.Between Ziggy and Martz I can see where Armey didn't sail on smooth seas..Back at the end of LA 1, one can see that Shaw was in total charge of the dismantling of the Rams... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: STL Fans? POST #54 Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. by BobCarl 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 4659 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar STL Fans? POST #55 St. Loser Fan wrote:...don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. what defines a "Saint Louisan"? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #56 BobCarl wrote:what defines a "Saint Louisan"?Someone born and raised here. -The Bidwells got run out of Chicago. -Georgia left St. Louis at 15 and didn’t come back for 50 years. On game days she couldn’t get back to LA fast enough. -Stan is from a few hours away. by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #57 RamsFanSince82 liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.With the U.S. being a nation of immigrants and L.A. being a city of transplants, this notion makes very little sense to me... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. 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by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #53 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:To me, the biggest difference was the Rams player personnel director then and now, Then it was the emasculated Charley Army (with a title of GM)... Now it is Les Snead (with a title of GM) ... even though I have been a critic of Snead during the Fisher regime, it seems that he has been allowed to make a more meaningful contribution than Charley Army was allowed to. Looks like Vermiel was in charge of the personnel that became the GSOT.Between Ziggy and Martz I can see where Armey didn't sail on smooth seas..Back at the end of LA 1, one can see that Shaw was in total charge of the dismantling of the Rams... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: STL Fans? POST #54 Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. by BobCarl 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 4659 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar STL Fans? POST #55 St. Loser Fan wrote:...don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. what defines a "Saint Louisan"? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #56 BobCarl wrote:what defines a "Saint Louisan"?Someone born and raised here. -The Bidwells got run out of Chicago. -Georgia left St. Louis at 15 and didn’t come back for 50 years. On game days she couldn’t get back to LA fast enough. -Stan is from a few hours away. by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #57 RamsFanSince82 liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.With the U.S. being a nation of immigrants and L.A. being a city of transplants, this notion makes very little sense to me... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: STL Fans? POST #54 Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. by BobCarl 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 4659 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar STL Fans? POST #55 St. Loser Fan wrote:...don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. what defines a "Saint Louisan"? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #56 BobCarl wrote:what defines a "Saint Louisan"?Someone born and raised here. -The Bidwells got run out of Chicago. -Georgia left St. Louis at 15 and didn’t come back for 50 years. On game days she couldn’t get back to LA fast enough. -Stan is from a few hours away. by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #57 RamsFanSince82 liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.With the U.S. being a nation of immigrants and L.A. being a city of transplants, this notion makes very little sense to me... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by BobCarl 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 4659 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar STL Fans? POST #55 St. Loser Fan wrote:...don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans. what defines a "Saint Louisan"? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #56 BobCarl wrote:what defines a "Saint Louisan"?Someone born and raised here. -The Bidwells got run out of Chicago. -Georgia left St. Louis at 15 and didn’t come back for 50 years. On game days she couldn’t get back to LA fast enough. -Stan is from a few hours away. by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #57 RamsFanSince82 liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.With the U.S. being a nation of immigrants and L.A. being a city of transplants, this notion makes very little sense to me... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025
by St. Loser Fan 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #56 BobCarl wrote:what defines a "Saint Louisan"?Someone born and raised here. -The Bidwells got run out of Chicago. -Georgia left St. Louis at 15 and didn’t come back for 50 years. On game days she couldn’t get back to LA fast enough. -Stan is from a few hours away. by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #57 RamsFanSince82 liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.With the U.S. being a nation of immigrants and L.A. being a city of transplants, this notion makes very little sense to me... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025
by Elvis 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator STL Fans? POST #57 RamsFanSince82 liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.With the U.S. being a nation of immigrants and L.A. being a city of transplants, this notion makes very little sense to me... RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025
by RedAlice 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #58 St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Well, isn’t the reason that instead of starting a team in STL, the city stole one from a different city? Kinda can’t have both. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025
by Hacksaw 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator STL Fans? POST #59 RedAlice liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote:Still pisses me off to this day that St. Louis never had a local owner of it's football teams. And don't try to tell me Georgia or Stan were St. Louisans.Other than Mara in New York / Halas-McCaskey in Chicago / Paul Allen in Seattle (same city),,,, or Robert Kraft in Mass / Snyder in Bethesda / Richardson in Spring Hope NC, (same state),, very few did. It certainly isn't the norm anyway,, nor is it a criteria for keeping a team where it is, or moving it. GF & ESK were Missourians (same state) so that's closer than many. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 18 2025
by PARAM 7 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13228 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame STL Fans? POST #60 BobCarl liked this post BobCarl wrote:I admire your passion.The Cincinnati Reds was my favorite Baseball team ... until Marge Schott bought the team...because of her I lost interest in the team and the passion for them has never returned. Maybe if I lived there things would have been different.Regarding the Rams ... when Jay Zygmunt cut Isaac Bruce he cut me to the heart ... I almost lost interest in the Rams at that point. Yes, football business is business, but I think it would have been good business to let Bruce (and Warner) stay a Rams player for life and let both of them retire on their own terms.The Day that Bruce caught his 1000th reception (in a 49er uniform) ... I wasn't rooting against the Rams, but I was rooting 100% for Bruce to reach the milestone(s) ... I was so glad that I got to see those records live rather than on TV. At that time in NFL history, there was only one player ever in the NFL that had more receiving yards than Bruce did.As a Bruce fan ... it was my favorite moment of being a Season Ticket holder ... and I saw a lot of awesome Rams players put up stellar single-game performances. As a Rams fan .. it was the lowest of low ... to see Bruce setting his records in a 49ers uniform against the Rams.Bruce's records were set on the same day that Jay Zygmunt was fired. That firing helped restore my passion for the Rams. I was disappointed that the St. Louis press didn't make more of Zygmunt getting fired and the surrounding circumstances.The way I look at MY sports teams is they may be owned by somebody else but they are MY teams (the Rams, the Yankees, the Flyers). I root for the logo and the players wearing that logo. Anything an owner does is for HIS/HER profit. Any the TEAM or players do is for mine. An owner would probably have to sabotage the team or murder a player or coach for me to stop rooting for them. It's about the team not the owner......for me. But I respect anyone's decision to stop rooting for whatever reason they deem acceptable. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 Reply 6 / 8 1 6 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business