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 by moklerman
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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Hacksaw wrote:
CanuckRightWinger wrote:
Sam TheOklahomaCarpetbagger Bradford has GOT to be the most overpaid QB in NFL history on a Dollar Per Point Scored basis!! :idea: :arrow: :!: I ASK YOU...WHAT NFL QB GOT PAID MORE MONEY, FOR LESS PRODUCTION, OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, THAN SAM TheDud BRADFORD, HUH??!! NAME ONE!!! ANYBODY??!!


Perhaps this guy Canuck.. he didn't last as long though.

CONTRACT:6 yr(s) / $13,200,000 , , SIGNING BONUS , , $11,250,000 , , AVERAGE SALARY $2,200,000 , , GUARANTEED:$13,200,000

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... nced::none

But then again, this is not a flattering comparison by any stretch.
Now Bradford's in the same conversation as Ryan Leaf? You guys are demented.

 by BuiltRamTough
9 years 2 months ago
 Total posts:   5357  
 Joined:  May 15 2015
Armenia   Los Angeles
Hall of Fame

moklerman wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:
CanuckRightWinger wrote:
Sam TheOklahomaCarpetbagger Bradford has GOT to be the most overpaid QB in NFL history on a Dollar Per Point Scored basis!! :idea: :arrow: :!: I ASK YOU...WHAT NFL QB GOT PAID MORE MONEY, FOR LESS PRODUCTION, OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, THAN SAM TheDud BRADFORD, HUH??!! NAME ONE!!! ANYBODY??!!


Perhaps this guy Canuck.. he didn't last as long though.

CONTRACT:6 yr(s) / $13,200,000 , , SIGNING BONUS , , $11,250,000 , , AVERAGE SALARY $2,200,000 , , GUARANTEED:$13,200,000

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... nced::none

But then again, this is not a flattering comparison by any stretch.
Now Bradford's in the same conversation as Ryan Leaf? You guys are demented.

That's true but I don't let stats determine anything.

Wentz and Goff have the similar stats as Foles and Mannion. Should we bypass them also?

 by moklerman
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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BuiltRamTough wrote:That's true but I don't let stats determine anything.

Wentz and Goff have the similar stats as Foles and Mannion. Should we bypass them also?
I still don't know what you meant by: "We know what Cook did in college compared to Foles and Mannion in college. That's all we could go by."

It reads to me like you're saying Cook was statistically better than Foles and Mannion were in college. Which isn't the case. All of them produced about the same in college so it seems to me that drafting Cook would just be adding more of the same of what we already have. Which would mean a wasted pick IMO.

 by BuiltRamTough
9 years 2 months ago
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 Joined:  May 15 2015
Armenia   Los Angeles
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moklerman wrote:
BuiltRamTough wrote:That's true but I don't let stats determine anything.

Wentz and Goff have the similar stats as Foles and Mannion. Should we bypass them also?
I still don't know what you meant by: "We know what Cook did in college compared to Foles and Mannion in college. That's all we could go by."

It reads to me like you're saying Cook was statistically better than Foles and Mannion were in college. Which isn't the case. All of them produced about the same in college so it seems to me that drafting Cook would just be adding more of the same of what we already have. Which would mean a wasted pick IMO.

I get what you're saying now. You have a point. Hopefully Mannion and Foles produce in the NFL the same way they did in college.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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moklerman wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:
CanuckRightWinger wrote:
Sam TheOklahomaCarpetbagger Bradford has GOT to be the most overpaid QB in NFL history on a Dollar Per Point Scored basis!! :idea: :arrow: :!: I ASK YOU...WHAT NFL QB GOT PAID MORE MONEY, FOR LESS PRODUCTION, OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, THAN SAM TheDud BRADFORD, HUH??!! NAME ONE!!! ANYBODY??!!


Perhaps this guy Canuck.. he didn't last as long though.

CONTRACT:6 yr(s) / $13,200,000 , , SIGNING BONUS , , $11,250,000 , , AVERAGE SALARY $2,200,000 , , GUARANTEED:$13,200,000

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... nced::none

But then again, this is not a flattering comparison by any stretch.
Now Bradford's in the same conversation as Ryan Leaf? You guys are demented.

ha ha.. My point was more about $$'s vs wins.

 by Elvis
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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The league continues to see something in Bradford.

!st pick in the draft. Got paid every penny of his rookie contract. PHili gave up Nick Foles and 2nd round pick. And now Phili's new coach is willing to pay him $36 mil to stay with the team.

I don't see a ton in Bradford but more than that i don't see anything in the Rams that makes me think we'll get a high level of play from any QB.

So if we're gonna get a new QB, i'd prefer a dual threat who can run. Otherwise stand pat and spend our resources on positions we know how to get production out of...

 by moklerman
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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cgsuddeath wrote:Yes because at least Bradford knew the offense and Foles was clueless
I don't think that's accurate. Foles was quite good to start and exactly what many thought he was going to be. I was all set to eat a BIG plate of crow as good as he looked against the Cardinals for example.

He wasn't "clueless", he imploded. It really doesn't make much sense unless the pressure and hits and predictable offense and lack of protection, etc. all just culminated in him going on tilt. Some have said that he was actually injured and he was trying to play through it, I don't know. But between him and Matt Schaub, I've never seen two relatively good QB's who have suddenly and inexplicably become horrible and just couldn't stop their tailspin.

 by moklerman
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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Elvis wrote:The league continues to see something in Bradford.

!st pick in the draft. Got paid every penny of his rookie contract. PHili gave up Nick Foles and 2nd round pick. And now Phili's new coach is willing to pay him $36 mil to stay with the team.
I don't know that that will remain to be true. I don't even know if Kelly actually wanted him. In retrospect it seems that he may have indeed wanted Mariota all along. It is my guess that Roseman has something in the works for Bradford. His contract is set up like a bridge QB contract but they went out and signed a literal bridge QB in Daniel.

Elvis wrote:I don't see a ton in Bradford but more than that i don't see anything in the Rams that makes me think we'll get a high level of play from any QB.
Bradford, with the Rams and under Fisher with a lot less in place, was producing. Top half, borderline top 10, however you want to look at it, Bradford was performing better than the backup level play they've tried to get by on when he's not in the lineup. Which still remains the point. If he's healthy and in the lineup, the Rams would be fine. He may not put up Marino numbers but he was decent and rarely hurt the team. Which is what Fisher wants. He wants a guy to take advantage of play action, take what the defense gives and not turn the ball over. If the stigma and personal feelings weren't attached to Bradford, I don't see how anyone could disagree that he isn't everything that Fisher wants in a QB(when healthy).

Elvis wrote:So if we're gonna get a new QB, i'd prefer a dual threat who can run. Otherwise stand pat and spend our resources on positions we know how to get production out of...
I agree. I wanted Hundley from UCLA so bad for Fisher's team I couldn't stand it. I like Lynch but with any of these guys, I don't think they'll be playing right away and I don't have high hopes of them "developing" while with the Rams. I do endorse Snisher with their overall drafting so I think it would benefit the Rams to take BPA rather than force a QB pick.

I would be very pleased if they traded for Bradford though. Bradford, Keenum and Mannion would be fine & dandy as a QB corps IMO. From everything I've read, didn't they only reluctantly trade him away, primarily because of $$$ and health concerns? It wasn't about his (lack of)ability. So, if they think the Eagles showed he could stay healthy and paid to do it, why not bring him back on the now restructured deal? It's relatively affordable, it's got an easy out and it allows the Rams to open 2016 with a QB that isn't training on the job. He doesn't even need to acclimate too much to the personnel.

Emotion aside, it does seem to be a reasonable, if not attractive possibility.

 by OldSchool
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

BuiltRamTough wrote:
OldSchool wrote:
BuiltRamTough wrote:Well he was a dream come true for Spartan fans the last 3 years.

Tim Tebow was a dream come true for Gator fans too, how'd that work out in the NFL?

The difference is a lot of people didn't think Tebows game could translate to the NFL.

With Cook, most think low 1st high 2nd because his game translates to the NFL.

If your going to compare Tebow to Cook then I don't know what to tell you.


No I was pointing out it's foolish to say Cook will be a good NFL QB because his college teams fans loved him. I asked earlier what Cook had that Keenum, Foles and Mannion don't.

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