[Haden]

How was his arm? Would you put him ahead or behind Wolford?

Ahead

[ramsman34]

The is a new deal there for Ramsey that would work for both sides in the immediate term but hurt the rams long term cap wise. They either trade him while his value is high, or redo his deal while the team is in the window. They can do nothing and he can honor current deal or sit out. That also hamstrings the Rams cap wise and cuts/restructures at multiple other positions would have to happen.

I hope they redo his deal, get more cap room and stay competitive for 2 more seasons. After that, the team will likely be in a bigger cut salaries/rebuild mode.

If I am the Rams, I am doing everything to be highly competitive for the next two seasons and understand that there will be some major moves made after that.

They need to draft very well with the picks they keep/use. They need to sign vets that have a couple years left on current deal who they can restructure for better cap space now and give them time to see if these younger guys become core players.

They need to be smart with their own FAs and have a talent gained for talent lost plan in place for the guys they lose - even if that means replacement with guys on the roster currently.

JMO. As always.

[ramman2999]

Very smart spot on couldn’t have said it better.

[Elvis]

From Peter King:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... en-carter/

You may have seen in the last few days a report that the Rams might trade cornerback Jalen Ramsey. It’s true. It’s not certain, but it absolutely could happen.

The Rams are trying to reverse course from the team that hasn’t had a first-round draft choice since they picked Jared Goff first overall in 2016. If they’re able to deal Ramsey for something near market value, what exactly would that market value be—and what would it mean for the Rams’ drafts in 2023 and ’24?

The Rams are slated to have 10 picks in 2023, and though compensatory picks have not been announced, we can project them reliably—and I have done that with the aid of overthecap.com. The Rams’ picks: 36th overall (round two), 69th overall (round three), three picks in the sixth round, one in the seventh round, and compensatory picks in rounds four, five, six and seven.

Ramsey will play his age-29 season this year. In his last three season, PFF has ranked him the 16th-, fourth- and 11th-rated cornerback in the league in coverage grades. So he’s still a quality player at a need position. He’s got three years left on a contract that is due to pay him $17 million this year.

My projection is the Rams could get something between a low first-round pick this year ( Dallas, Buffalo and Kansas City could be interested, and pick between 26 and 31 overall) and a package of picks—perhaps a low two this year, and a fourth-rounder this year or next, that could rise depending on performance or play-time markers Ramsey could meet.

The other factor about this team: I expect GM Les Snead to trade the Rams’ high second-round pick this year for either two or three picks between the mid-second and fifth rounds. Ideal world, Snead trades his high two for a low two and two fours. If they deal Ramsey, add a prime pick this year (I project a second-rounder) plus somewhere around a three next year.

In my scenario, the Rams would start the major retooling of their roster with a lineup of picks something like this:

Round 1: 0.

Round 2: 1.

Round 3: 1.

Round 4: 3.

Round 5: 1.

Round 6: 4.

Round 7: 2.

Total: 12 (10 in the bottom 150).

Add a third- or fourth-rounder next year in my Ramsey scenario, and, say, three compensatory picks because the Rams are not likely to be aggressive signing their own free-agents this year.

So, in my projection, no team will have to be better scouting and projecting over the next two drafts. The Rams will have in the neighborhood of 24 picks, combined, in 2023 and ’24 to make over this roster and get back in the thick of the NFC West race.

Postscript: Imagine next year having a first-round pick for the first time in eight years, and imagine that pick being pretty high in the first round, and imagine Caleb Williams of USC coming out of the draft. This will be Matthew Stafford ’s age-35 season, his 15th year in the league. Next year is very far away, but it’s an intriguing time to think about the future of Sean McVay and the Rams.

[JackPMiller]

From Peter King:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... en-carter/

You may have seen in the last few days a report that the Rams might trade cornerback Jalen Ramsey. It’s true. It’s not certain, but it absolutely could happen.

The Rams are trying to reverse course from the team that hasn’t had a first-round draft choice since they picked Jared Goff first overall in 2016. If they’re able to deal Ramsey for something near market value, what exactly would that market value be—and what would it mean for the Rams’ drafts in 2023 and ’24?

The Rams are slated to have 10 picks in 2023, and though compensatory picks have not been announced, we can project them reliably—and I have done that with the aid of overthecap.com. The Rams’ picks: 36th overall (round two), 69th overall (round three), three picks in the sixth round, one in the seventh round, and compensatory picks in rounds four, five, six and seven.

Ramsey will play his age-29 season this year. In his last three season, PFF has ranked him the 16th-, fourth- and 11th-rated cornerback in the league in coverage grades. So he’s still a quality player at a need position. He’s got three years left on a contract that is due to pay him $17 million this year.

My projection is the Rams could get something between a low first-round pick this year ( Dallas, Buffalo and Kansas City could be interested, and pick between 26 and 31 overall) and a package of picks—perhaps a low two this year, and a fourth-rounder this year or next, that could rise depending on performance or play-time markers Ramsey could meet.

The other factor about this team: I expect GM Les Snead to trade the Rams’ high second-round pick this year for either two or three picks between the mid-second and fifth rounds. Ideal world, Snead trades his high two for a low two and two fours. If they deal Ramsey, add a prime pick this year (I project a second-rounder) plus somewhere around a three next year.

In my scenario, the Rams would start the major retooling of their roster with a lineup of picks something like this:

Round 1: 0.

Round 2: 1.

Round 3: 1.

Round 4: 3.

Round 5: 1.

Round 6: 4.

Round 7: 2.

Total: 12 (10 in the bottom 150).

Add a third- or fourth-rounder next year in my Ramsey scenario, and, say, three compensatory picks because the Rams are not likely to be aggressive signing their own free-agents this year.

So, in my projection, no team will have to be better scouting and projecting over the next two drafts. The Rams will have in the neighborhood of 24 picks, combined, in 2023 and ’24 to make over this roster and get back in the thick of the NFC West race.

Postscript: Imagine next year having a first-round pick for the first time in eight years, and imagine that pick being pretty high in the first round, and imagine Caleb Williams of USC coming out of the draft. This will be Matthew Stafford ’s age-35 season, his 15th year in the league. Next year is very far away, but it’s an intriguing time to think about the future of Sean McVay and the Rams.

If it were possible, I would love to find a way to get an extra first round next year. It's been a while since the Rams had two picks in round 1. If correct, it was 2014. That year we drafted Greg Robinson at 2, and Aaron Donald at 13.

[actionjack]

From Peter King:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... en-carter/

You may have seen in the last few days a report that the Rams might trade cornerback Jalen Ramsey. It’s true. It’s not certain, but it absolutely could happen.

The Rams are trying to reverse course from the team that hasn’t had a first-round draft choice since they picked Jared Goff first overall in 2016. If they’re able to deal Ramsey for something near market value, what exactly would that market value be—and what would it mean for the Rams’ drafts in 2023 and ’24?

The Rams are slated to have 10 picks in 2023, and though compensatory picks have not been announced, we can project them reliably—and I have done that with the aid of overthecap.com. The Rams’ picks: 36th overall (round two), 69th overall (round three), three picks in the sixth round, one in the seventh round, and compensatory picks in rounds four, five, six and seven.

Ramsey will play his age-29 season this year. In his last three season, PFF has ranked him the 16th-, fourth- and 11th-rated cornerback in the league in coverage grades. So he’s still a quality player at a need position. He’s got three years left on a contract that is due to pay him $17 million this year.

My projection is the Rams could get something between a low first-round pick this year ( Dallas, Buffalo and Kansas City could be interested, and pick between 26 and 31 overall) and a package of picks—perhaps a low two this year, and a fourth-rounder this year or next, that could rise depending on performance or play-time markers Ramsey could meet.

The other factor about this team: I expect GM Les Snead to trade the Rams’ high second-round pick this year for either two or three picks between the mid-second and fifth rounds. Ideal world, Snead trades his high two for a low two and two fours. If they deal Ramsey, add a prime pick this year (I project a second-rounder) plus somewhere around a three next year.

In my scenario, the Rams would start the major retooling of their roster with a lineup of picks something like this:

Round 1: 0.

Round 2: 1.

Round 3: 1.

Round 4: 3.

Round 5: 1.

Round 6: 4.

Round 7: 2.

Total: 12 (10 in the bottom 150).

Add a third- or fourth-rounder next year in my Ramsey scenario, and, say, three compensatory picks because the Rams are not likely to be aggressive signing their own free-agents this year.

So, in my projection, no team will have to be better scouting and projecting over the next two drafts. The Rams will have in the neighborhood of 24 picks, combined, in 2023 and ’24 to make over this roster and get back in the thick of the NFC West race.

Postscript: Imagine next year having a first-round pick for the first time in eight years, and imagine that pick being pretty high in the first round, and imagine Caleb Williams of USC coming out of the draft. This will be Matthew Stafford ’s age-35 season, his 15th year in the league. Next year is very far away, but it’s an intriguing time to think about the future of Sean McVay and the Rams.

Wow lot to unpack here. I def agree these next couple of drafts will be huge for the Rams. If they draft well they can re-establish themselves if not we are in trouble.

I think we really need to see what Stafford looks like this year after have 1/2 season off.

[ramman2999]

Is all on Stafford. If he comes back. We aren’t sniffing Caleb Williams. Stafford wins 9 games easily., it’s all about the Neck. If he gives it a try and then shuts it down or pulls a Peyton Manning. Then it’s all done. And Aaron Donald leaves and every one cause you are definitely in a tank for Caleb Williams.

Definitely let Baker walk and Keep Harris and just ge get Caleb.

Next year’s draft has superstars written all over it. Marvin Harrison Jr. Williams and Taner just to name a few. So the Rams have a plan I just don’t know what it is.

[Elvis]

[actionjack]

Agree with this take.

[JackPMiller]

Is all on Stafford. If he comes back. We aren’t sniffing Caleb Williams. Stafford wins 9 games easily., it’s all about the Neck. If he gives it a try and then shuts it down or pulls a Peyton Manning. Then it’s all done. And Aaron Donald leaves and every one cause you are definitely in a tank for Caleb Williams.

Definitely let Baker walk and Keep Harris and just ge get Caleb.

Next year’s draft has superstars written all over it. Marvin Harrison Jr. Williams and Taner just to name a few. So the Rams have a plan I just don’t know what it is.

If everything holds, the secondary looks real good.


Just naming a few of each, but both Corner & Safety looks real good. Could be the strongest that I have ever seen.


CB
Denzel Burke
Kamari Lassiter
KoolAid McKinley
Nehemiah Pritchett
Sage Ryan
Nate Wiggins

S
Syven Banks
Cole Bishop
Al Blades Jr.
Derick Davis
Andrew Mukuba
Josh Procter
James Williams